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Being "proud" of your acheivements is fine.
Being "proud" of your country or your state or your football team that you're not a member of,or your ethnicity is douchebaggery.
My mam has a union jack she flies outside her house. I always say "do you forget what country you live in?" To her all the time about it
My country is ranked most patriotic in the world, at 94%.
I'm part of the 6% who isn't patriotic. I'm instead proud of THAT. Especially since we have an extreme football fandom that I'm really getting tired of being a part of, mostly due to the hooligans that resulted from this. After the last World Cup, I just stopped caring.
Pride, like most emotions or feelings, exists on a range. You can be proud of all of these things, including your achievements; it's the degree to which you carry that pride that determines the "douchebaggery," don't you think?
The sports team, I would say, probably has the lowest "douchebaggery threshold," as the spectator is so far removed from the team—especially for professional teams—whereas the others carry more involvement and/or stake for its community.
Being proud of someone else makes you a douchebag?
Any pride which implies superiority over others is douchebaggery. Especially when based on exclusivity of group membership for things you didnt earn yourself. Or anything used to shame others.
Being proud you made yourself work out every day is good. Saying you are proud that you have a better body than most is douchbaggery. Being proud that your wife is hot is douchebaggery. Being proud that your city made the playoffs is douchebaggery. Being proud of yourself that you worked hard and are financially stable is fine, especvially if you keep it to yourself. Being proud that you are rich is douchebaggery.
Being proud of the price of your car is douchebaggery.
Theres nuance there, I'll leave it to you to figure it out. I think if your pride is intended to make others feel lesser then you can do better.
You are assuming having pride means you put down others accomplishments, but that's not always the case. You can be a fan of a sports team and still not hate the opposing team.