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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Mackerel stocks near breaking point because of overfishing, say experts (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] fake_meows@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you have never watched this lecture on YouTube, it's an absolute MUST.

This is Dana (Donella) Meadows (author of the Limits to Growth) explaining complex systems via the unsustainability of a collapsing wild fishery.

https://youtu.be/HMmChiLZZHg

Jump to 23m20s if you want to go right to the wild fishery illustration. The entire 4 part lecture is mesmerizing and worth watching as a part of understanding the history of collapse study.

Spoiler:

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In part one, she shows how with constant technology, the fishery is sustainable.

In part two, she shows how improving fishing technology creates a predator / prey collapse cycle, and that, furthermore, any additional technology creates a technology trap that damages the ecosystem carrying capacity (overshoot) and causes a system collapse that cannot recover.