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What happens when you think? There's not a voice? How about when you read?
In both cases, the words just... go straight from words to comprehension? It's kind of hard to answer that question, because introspection of the process isn't possible. I mean, I just look at words and know what they mean. From experience, I think I read about 3 times faster than most other people, what with not having to wait to hear them spoken by an internal voice. (Subtitles in the same language as the audio are maddening, because I can't not read them, and then have to wait so long for the speech to catch up.)
You are assuming the internal voice is more of a presence. Its more the background exhaust of thinking. I don't have to listen to my inner voice say it, as I read silently they just fall out the back of my head as I go.
actually this, but it goes both ways, spoken voice and written text can go fuck itself, and subtitles on spoken words can go fuck itself. Actual comprehension hell.
The subtitles thing is odd. I also read them instantly but it's not a bother. Spend the rest of the time focusing on other things ksyaed of what they're trying to say. It's lovely
I have the same experience including the thing with subtitles. What’s the connection between the no-internal-voice and the maddening subtitles?
Just that I read them so quickly, I'm ready for the show it movie to move on to the next scene, and have to wait for the dialog to catch up.
reading you can sort of mentally supplant. It's really weird, but i'm very immersed into reading, like i comprehend the world building, and the writing, and the characters, and all the interactions, i can feel the environment. I can't see anything, or hear anything, but i know what it looks like (at least i think) and i know what it sounds like.
Think about it as if it's a dream, and it starts to make more sense, it's just like a conscious dream, spurred by really good story telling.
My inner monologue, is just a stream of words, it isn't encumbered by a voice.
To me that sounds like "I just walk around without taking any steps."
If you think that is strange, I can rotate 3D objects in my head but there are no images.
i can build concepts in my head, without words or images. And just put them down, ofc i fumble a bit, because i'm not perfect, but i intuitively and innately understand concepts. Just based on my experience with that particular thing, much like an LLM can spit out actual real grammar and words that make actual real sense when you ask it to.
I understand that.
Because I don't need to tie it to a visual metaphor, a lot of complex concepts, especially math, I find quite easy.
yeah, it's literally just an abstraction of something that you understand enough to be able to cope with that adaptation.
the ability to visualize something is really useful when you don't fully understand it, because it gives you more leverage.