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‘There were no warning signs’: what happens when your partner falls into the ‘manosphere’? (www.theguardian.com)

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With surveys reporting that an increasing number of young men are subscribing to these beliefs, the number of women finding that their partners share the misogynistic views espoused by the likes of Andrew Tate is also on the rise. Research from anti-fascism organisation Hope Not Hate, which polled about 2,000 people across the UK aged 16 to 24, discovered that 41% of young men support Tate versus just 12% of young women.

“Numbers are growing, with wives worried about their husbands and partners becoming radicalised,” says Nigel Bromage, a reformed neo-Nazi who is now the director of Exit Hate Trust, a charity that helps people who want to leave the far right.

“Wives or partners become really worried about the impact on their family, especially those with young children, as they fear they will be influenced by extremism and racism.”

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[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 155 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Tradwife content is on the rise for women as well, more and more young people are buying into this mythical simpler past as the world gets more complex, alienating and difficult.

[–] pablodaniel@lemmings.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm reminded of the inspiration behind the Rust programming language.

"Rust is very much a language inspired from the past to save the future from itself."

Sorry, rampant consumerism has been detrimental to our species as a whole. Now no matter how much we have, it's never enough.

I'm glad people are fighting back against this 'new normal' that really only exists to funnel as much money as possible to the people at the top.

Also, if you leave Western nations you'll see that this "mythical simpler past" is still alive and well. The rest of the world is looking at the West like we're crazy, and most of us are. It's called hysteria.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can understand that but how come being a webcam girl and endure physical and psychological abuse fit in the "tradwife" narrative? It's particularly support for Tate what I can't understand

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I think this is ambigous. When people are asked "do you support the views of Andrew Tate?" How many actually know these in particular? What if individual views are asked and then if more than 50% are answered with "support" it is considered to support his views overall?

I've read enough news to know that Tate is a terrible person and probably a serious criminal. But i would not be able to describe his views, nor do i want to find out what his views are exactly.

[–] pablodaniel@lemmings.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is it. People like Trump, Tate, Musk, and West all know how saying provocative yet ambiguous statements causes people to talk about them.

It's really an art at this point, and I'm wondering if they've been working on making it a science.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Here are three of the research pieces the article uses ...

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/07/24/plugged-in-tate-misogyny-2/

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/07/24/plugged-in-tate-religion/

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/07/24/plugged-in-brand/

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I looked at the one for mysoginy

One in four of the young people who have heard of Tate have a favourable opinion of him, but there is a clear gender divide: only 12% of female respondents have a positive view, compared to 41% of young men.

We asked young people what they liked about Tate. The top three reasons overall are: “He’s not afraid to push back against ‘woke’ ideology” (24%), “He wants men to be real men” (22%) and “He tells it how it is” (20%). Although it is commonly thought that Tate’s opulent lifestyle, cars and fitness are an entrypoint through which young people become interested in his content, admiration for lifestyle (14%) and humour (11%) do not rank as highly. This suggests that the main pull of Andrew Tate for young people is his hateful activism.

That said, younger Tate supporters aged 16-17 and female respondents are more likely to admire his lifestyle, at 20% and 18% respectively. Putting Tate’s motivational and fitness content within a wider context of his divisiveness and hatefulness, as well as signposting other figures who produce similar lifestyle content without the underlying misogyny, could be an important step in combating his influence on younger, female audiences.

I think the source provides a nuanced picture and offer suggestions how to combat his influence that got lost in the short notion in the guardian article.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 9 points 3 days ago

The raw numbers maybe obscure this but aren't the popularity levels are really about how far along the radicalisation they are?

People start watching for the lifestyle and fitness then end up believing the other stuff and watching for that. I guess women stall out more because who could believe that kind of stuff about themselves?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Tate’s motivational and fitness content

Speaking of, let me present to you the anti-Tate

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All I know about Tate's views are that he's a male supremacist of some sort.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago

And rapist, human trafficker, scammer, etc etc etc.

Scumbucket for short.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Fair enough, so there is a possibility that this article (or the surveys it's based on) are being somewhat misleading. I hope you are right

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

mythical simple past but they wouldn't put down the fucking phone. anything but the phone!!

(regardless of gender)

[–] pablodaniel@lemmings.world 1 points 2 days ago

I guess they never had new technology in the past.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry if a dumb question but what is a “tradwife”? (Not a native speaker)

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

It is a shortening of "Traditional wife" as in a wife who complies with the old male/female value system. IE the man works and provides for and protects the family while the woman stays at home, cooks, cleans the house, watches the kids, does not talk back to her man because he is the head of the family and runs shit. Her job basically is to make life easier for him and raise his kids.