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Can't run Windows 11? Don't want to? There are surprisingly legal options

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[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I predict the big replacement for supported Windows 10 will be unsupported Windows 10. I expect that's a pretty safe bet

Famous last words before getting a keylogger that leads to all your bank accounts being drained due to lack of security patches.

Also, this is pretty much not possible (if not illegal) for business operations since those generally require having a secure OS to work on.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Famous last words before getting a keylogger that leads to all your bank accounts being drained due to lack of security patches.

Well, yeah. What kind of security do you think normies are running? They won't even get hijacked by an unpatched Windows 10 exploit, they'll just try to download The Last of Us by opening "WatchOnlineMoviesFree.exe" when a pop up tells them to.

Business operations will go with whatever is cheapest to maintain, which is the entire point of LTSC and the article in the link.

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, yeah. What kind of security do you think normies are running? They won't even get hijacked by an unpatched Windows 10 exploit, they'll just try to download The Last of Us by opening "WatchOnlineMoviesFree.exe" when a pop up tells them to.

Well exactly, although let's be honest: "normies" will ~~downgrade~~ upgrade to windows 11 because they always want the latest greatest thing.

Business operations will go with whatever is cheapest to maintain, which is the entire point of LTSC and the article in the link.

This might be true wherever you're from (I'm assuming US?) but it's in no way reality where I live. Here you must use a secure OS for businesses, you can't just use whatever.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not in the US.

The point of LTSC builds of Win10 is they will keep getting security updates, in some cases until the 2030s. That's what the actual article we're all supposed to be talking about is explaining.

So yes, there is a planned solution to keep a secure build of Win10 for businesses for at least a few more years. For that reason. That's what this conversation is about. Normally I'd chastise people for not reading through to the body of the linked article, but this time it's right in the headline. You literally could not have reached this post without reading it at least once.

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's what this conversation is about. Normally I'd chastise people for not reading through to the body of the linked article, but this time it's right in the headline. You literally could not have reached this post without reading it at least once.

It's called having a conversation and typically in those people move past the starting point on to other related topics. There's no need to read malice into it.

You're welcome to not answer further, too.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Hey, no, no malice read into it and I'm all for having a conversation about the subject. But it's also true that if we have to litigate the basic facts we're talking about (specifically, that Windows 10 WILL in fact have purchaseable security upgrades for several more years) over multiple posts it's just not a very productive conversation, you know? Ideally the chat starts from the actual information being shared in the link, or at the very least in the headline.

In any case, yes, businesses will need to keep getting security updates and they will get security updates for the foreseeable, be it by moving to Win11 where they can or by moving to the long term support tracks for Win10 where the hardware doesn't support it or it's cheaper.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're still supporting regular Win 10 but will start charging $30 a year for patches.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended-security-updates

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How long do you expect that to last?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft is in it for the money. I think they'd rather get $30 a year every year than get $30 one time from a PC manufacturer who bundled Windows.

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago

I suppose. We would have to know if it's worth their while to work on security flaws (which I imagine they will put zero effort into and pretty much just answer to bounty hunter reports) for $30 a year.

But because I know Microsoft and am used to their shenanigans, I wouldn't hold my breath on that lasting for too long.