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How to make people realise organisations like Hamas, Hezbollah and Ansar'Allah are not the same as the Taliban or the Islamic State? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 3 days ago by borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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People really seem to struggle to realise how different they are. Hamas is not ISIS, that should be obvious to anyone with cursory knowledge on the history of the region. Hamas, Hezbollah and Ansar'Allah are not going to, nor have the capacity to, gut gay people and women who don't wear a niqab or hijab. They are not Salafists, for the love of Christ.

The only reason people compare these wildly different groups, is because they all (at least claim to) adhere to Islamic principles. If you think for even a second, you'd realise how ridiculous this is. It's like comparing the CDU to the KKK or even the Spanish Falange because they're all Christian, in some way or another.

It's plain ridiculous, though the liberal (and conservative) types never seem to get it.

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

But just because the Israeli’s religious doctrine is supported by a dominating military, whereas the Palestinian religious doctrine is embraced by people who are being oppressed, doesn’t make either religious doctrine more or less helpful or correct.

I mean, Israeli settlers believe that they’re entitled to the land because God promised it to Abraham and his progeny

This is a mischaracterization of the conflict. Israel is hardly backed by religious logic. There are mixed views among the Haredim who live within occupied Palestine, most of whom actually oppose the existence of the Zionist state.

Christians believe that if they can shuffle all the world’s Jews into Palestine and get that Temple rebuilt, Jesus will come back and rule paradise on Earth.

You're talking with a Catholic who believes the complete opposite of whatever this is. There is no such thing as a monolithic view among Christians as to ethnic relocations or the creation of ethnostates (although if you ask me, I'd say ethnic cleansing is wrong i-think-that)

The road to Middle East peace starts when we all stop believing nonsense.

Profoundly anti-materialist reading of the world. Read Marx and Engels, please. I'd start with Socialism: Utopian and Scientific