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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's observablt false. Capitalism has lead to a massive improvement in living conditions for countries that have implemented it

Yes it also has downsides, but pretending it doesn't do anything good is rediculous.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Your observation is only true where the working class controls the capital. Your point would be well taken if we all had significant shares providing passive income. Buy not even the wealthiest of the working class controls a share of capital proportionate to their productive output.

The worst injustices injustices in history have been perpetrated by oligarchs of some shape or another. We are in the middle of such an era now.

And the word is "ridiculous".

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You sound like Marx just before he recommends transitioning to socialism as the next logical stage of human development.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I still think that regulated capitalism works best for certain industries, and socialism works best for others.

It doesn't have to be an all or nothing choice.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And how do we know which industries would benefit most from capitalism or socialism? All industries experience diminishing returns of capital investment after a certain point, and that is how Marx made the distinction about which mode of production is "best" for which industry. It isn't inherent that one industry should be socialist and another capitalist, it is relative to how big the industry is and whether there is room for continued expansion.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

One of the easiest ways is to determine which industries are most prone to the failures of the market.

Things that are inherently monopolies like roads, or power lines or things that don't allow reasonable consumer information/choice like healthcare, etc.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Marx was a genocidal maniac. You shouldn't read much into his lunacy.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Aux@feddit.uk 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Aux@feddit.uk 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I would need an extract of the specific parts that are genocidal and an explanation as to why they are genocidal.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

I have. And I did not see anything genocidal.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If purity is your jam, Jesus said some radical things about rich people.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago

Reading fiction has helped me be a better person, I wish the same for you.

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

That's dangerously close to Reaganomics friend and we live in a post-capitalism world.