zbyte64

Back when search engines worked.... Pepper Ridge Farms remembers

That makes it a commodity, not art.

their argument is so broad it ends up also applying ti things like photography.

That's what you said, so I take it as: if I give a definition that includes Photography, it will be regarded as too broad. But I went ahead and gave you part of a definition anyways.

What I said is that Art is not a commodity. I will grant you that "wanting things" and "getting things" is a form of human expression, but it is not art, that is exchanging commodities. If you can express a Generative AI scenario where someone draws upon their "values" instead of their desires then you might have an example of art. So in your library scenario, what "values" are behind their desires for "digital art"? Or is this person just wanting a certain aesthetic?

The important thing is that we use our standards to not engage with what is being said but to pursue purity in our information sources. We should start by disconnecting from the fediverse because you obviously can't trust half of what is being said here.

Hold up, you think the definition of art is too broad if it includes Photography but not broad enough if it doesn't include Generative AI? Based on that I don't think it is possible to give you a reason you would accept.

This conversation of "art" reminds me of the difference between "value" and "values": https://davidgraeber.org/articles/value-the-antropological-theories-of-value/

If someone want high quality digital art, teaching them crochet doesn’t help them.

This is a statement of "value" not "values". That someone wants "digital art" but there is no connection being made to their "values", they are simply getting what they want.

Art is not a commodity, AI is.

And they know what they want because they tell us

Is this why modern caltrops ended up on my YouTube FYP?

I remember family separations was a big deal during his first term. And then there was that US citizen teen who was imprisoned by ICE in Texas....

Sorry but my spine only lets me punch down.

Only disagree on how much they suck. There are many more reasons why they lost.

Enshittification is a paradigm shift, but not one we associate with the birth of the internet.

On to your list. Why does misinformation appear after the birth of the internet? Was yellow journalism just a historical outlier?

What you're witnessing is the "Red Queen hypothesis". LLMs have revolutionized the scam industry and step 7 is an AI arms race against and with misinformation.

LLMs are not like the birth of the internet. LLMs are more like what came after when marketing took over the roadmap. We had AI before LLMs, and it delivered high quality search results. Now we have search powered by LLMs and the quality is dramatically lower.