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Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy have sat down for a face-to-face talk in the opulent halls of a Vatican basilica to discuss a possible ceasefire, after which the US president accused his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, of not wanting to “stop the war”.

The White House described Trump’s meeting with the Ukrainian leader before Pope Francis’s funeral as “very productive”, while Zelenskyy said on X that the talk with the US president was symbolic and had the “potential to become historic, if we achieve joint results”.

It was the first time that Zelenskyy and Trump had met face to face after a frosty February encounter in the White House where Trump and the US vice-president, JD Vance, berated the Ukrainian leader and accused him of ingratitude for US aid.

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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does staying at war on Ukraine advance these aims?

[–] obbeel -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because it deepens the rift. Donald Trump as president also helps Putin a lot, as the russian president have said before, since Trump also wants to shake things up. As could be seen by his tariff policies.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does continuing the war deepen the rift? Clearly it strengthens the resolve of European countries to develop their militaries and build alliances.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

You're asking good questions, but there’s a bigger picture here.

Keeping the war going does deepen the rift between the "West" and the "rest" (Global South, China, parts of Africa, Latin America) because the longer it drags on, the more global fatigue sets in.

Europe may strengthen militarily, but economically and politically it's getting weaker... inflation, energy crises, internal divisions (think of Hungary, Slovakia, even parts of Germany), and rising far right movements that don't necessarily want to give aid to Ukraine.

Meanwhile, countries in the Global South see the West’s endless funding of the war and start asking why wars and genocides elsewhere (like in Palestine, Sudan, Yemen) don't get the same attention or aid. That erodes Western moral authority globally, this alone is probably why you're here on this platform today.

China and Russia use that frustration to present themselves as “alternatives” to U.S. and European dominance — even if it's obviously self-serving.

Also, a prolonged war keeps the U.S. distracted and pouring resources into Ukraine instead of focusing fully on Asia-Pacific (where China’s real ambitions lie). From Putin’s view, even if Russia suffers economically, the systemic weakening of Western unity is a bigger win in the long run.