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This is one of the "smartest" models you can fit on a 24GB GPU now, with no offloading and very little quantization loss. It feels big and insightful, like a better (albeit dry) Llama 3.3 70B with thinking, and with more STEM world knowledge than QwQ 32B, but comfortably fits thanks the new exl3 quantization!

Quantization Loss

You need to use a backend that support exl3, like (at the moment) text-gen-web-ui or (soon) TabbyAPI.

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[–] projectmoon@forum.agnos.is 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What are the benefits of EXL3 vs the more normal quantizations? I have 16gb of VRAM on an AMD card. Would I be able to benefit from this quant yet?

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

AFAIK ROCm isn't yet supported: https://github.com/turboderp-org/exllamav3

I hope the word "yet" means that it might come at some point, but for now it doesn't seem to be developed in any form or fashion.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a "What's missing" section there that lists ROCm, so I'm pretty sure it's planned to be added

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That, and exl2 has ROCm support.

There was always the bugaboo of uttering a prayer to get rocm flash attention working (come on, AMD...), but exl3 has plans to switch to flashinfer, which should eliminate that issue.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

^ what was said, not supported yet, though you can give it a shot theoretically.

Basically exl3 means you can run 32B models, totally on GPU without a ton of quantization loss, if you can get it working on your computer. But exl2/exl3 is less popular largely because it’s PyTorch based, hence more finicky to setup (no GGUF single files, no Macs, no easy install, especially on AMD).