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[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not true. The war enabled the US to cannibalise Europe and put them on a very short leash for the foreseeable future. I'm not sure the four oblasts are nearly as valuable to Russia, even if they had not been absolutely wrecked by 11 years of war (so far).

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On the other hand, the US has also cannibalized the economies of their strongest vassals in such a way that a pink wave is liable to break out at some point.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago

Don't be so sure. Gladio never ended. The only ones allowed to make sense on Russia are the far-right reactionary parties. The left euro-coms are totally defanged NATO stans. Add in the huge anti-immigrant racism push by the bourgeois press and those parties are making continual massive gains year over year in France, Germany, elsewhere and I expect will sweep the continent within the next 10 years with a few hold-outs. Maybe in 20 years you could see some reaction to that, some rejection but between then and now IMO Europeans will experience horrible economies, being used as fodder against China, increased reaction, gutting of social services, scapegoating of minorities, etc. Europeans like Americans are so cooked in propaganda and white supremacy that they're not going to break out and go anti-capitalist in the near term.