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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Russians took over

When the fuck was this? The Soviets backed out of the Israeli settler project when zionists made it clear they were going to brutalize the Palestinians. AFAIK, they cut off all ties to Israel and only established a relationship with them after the collapse of the USSR.

[–] FanofOatmeal@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When the fuck was this? The Soviets backed out of the Israeli settler project

maybe they're talking about Jews of Russian ancestry

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh so maybe just some casual antisemitism? Neat!

[–] FanofOatmeal@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

I mean objectively nobody's more antisemitic than iss not rael, this is common knowledge

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So uh I sort of have an idea what they're talking about, it's still being worked on and a lot of its still being worked on in terms of historical research that needs to be done to further pull back the curtains on the whole events surrounding the lead-up to the creation of israel during the late 40s.

It more or less boiled down to the Soviets knew the creation of Israel was inevitable in the post-war aftermath and made a gamble in trying to create either a neutral or socialist aligned Israeli state in order to combat british-american influence to the region during the early stages of the British empire "decolonization" process. It's such a fucking messy event that I'd blanch at the very thought of sitting in on the Soviet meetings on the very issue.

The whole creation of israel debacle actually really aligns with all the allegations of antisemitism against Stalin during his late life as well alongside the actual perpetuation of antisemitism within the Soviet Union. I suppose one could even call it blowback.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i don't think soviets ever retracted their autonomous jewish region in the far east as a proposition tho, just people rather wanted to be settlers flush with dollars and bombs than some workers there

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

It still exists!

Although it never had more than 25% of Jewish population and most had left since.