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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And farmers who own their lands, and workers who want unions independent of the state, and political dissidents, and a thousand other groups

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

And farmers who own their lands

:::spoiler The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, leading to almost totally equal redistribution of the land amongst the peasantry

[–] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

farmers who own their lands,

which burned their crop because they didn't want to collectivize causing food shortages

and workers who want unions independent of the state,

which were ultimately used by the west (solidarnośc)

and political dissidents,

Unlike any other country

and a thousand other groups

No u

the bourgeoisie and their running dogs.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're a political dissident if you live in a capitalist country. You in jail?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think society should improve, but you're not in jail, so society is perfect. Checkmate commie smuglord

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just saying, you assert capitalist countries would do the same as communist countries with political dissidents, why aren't you in a capitalist gulag for speaking against capitalism quite publically?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look at what happened actual organized dissidents like Fred Hapton, MLK, the Black Panthers, the original Black Lives Matters organizers in Ferguson etc. if you want to see what the US gov does to dissidents. We're just people on a reddit clone, they don't care

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Farmers who own their own lands"

And hire laborers that make less than minimum wage

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's entitled to keep the product of his labour, "hiring" isn't a thing after the revolution since "money" isn't a thing after the revolution, nor is "owning" a farm. If he "hires" a guy to plant crops, the hired man has done the labor and thus owns the crops. Since the farm is "the means of production," "the man who owns the farm" does not actually own the farm, "the people" do.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about how farms are in capitalist US now. People who own the land rip off laborers, who tend to be migrant workers without a way of protecting themselves.

I want the revolution to expropriatate the land and belong to to the people

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh he had listed those things as "people who should fear communism" so I thought you were on topic not just throwing semi-related jabs at farmers who will never read this, so I thought you meant like "only if he pays people less than minimum wage" so I popped in with "no no, not even if he does pay well." My mistake!

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: People like that do fear communism. They're kulaks

I changed "should" to "do", because they don't have to fear it, but most do because of their class position