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Where are "people" (Conservatives) getting this idea from? Governments do not have total information of the production of all goods produced in the world. How hard is it to understand they just look at the shipping location of items and their classified category?

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[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

He thinks items in the US are getting tariffed based on like a production manifest that lists out the origin of each component, I think. In the "discussion" he also mentioned stuff about ATV engines being sent from Mexico/US to Canada being blocked because they didn't have their emissions stats included due to some error so I'm assuming he mentioned that as a parallel to the component-list tariff idea.

And I think they also think that this includes stuff exiting the US too? I'm not sure. My idiot father also gets mad as fuck when I actually get him to clarify what he's talking about. The other day we were arguing and he said he told my mother to get new tires for her car and I kept asking how he "told her" this because I'm pretty sure she blocked his phone number because all he does is send curt, barely-literate demands to people via phone, which sucks ass to receive at all. Anyway, he wouldn't say how, he just kept restating that he told her.

Edit: I'm suspecting this is their mental cope to explain, like, tariffs driving price increases and that the companies need to just move production to the US or purchase US parts to solve it because that adds more US production to the manifest list which would bring down prices or something? I really don't know, it's so fucking stupid what I'm hearing. He said a guy at Honda (I'm assuming a dealership here and not the HQ) who was importing stuff "didn't understand it either". Which I think just means he kept doing the same shit he does with me and the other guy just gave up and pretended not to know either to get him to shut up because he will not shut the fuck up sometimes.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

that's... Weird. Why do they not think that the way tariffs actually work explains increased prices? Because they totally do.

[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Might honestly just be straight stupidity.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago

It's just bizarre to me that they're resistant to the idea that increasing the cost to do business will increase prices. What else would happen?!

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

the other guy just gave up and pretended not to know either to get him to shut up because he will not shut the fuck up sometimes.

Reactionaries do this all the time and think it means they won the argument when people disengage. I've seen this a lot where they gloat about "owning some lib." Like no, you did fuck all. The person you were arguing with just realized you're so fundamentally wrong it would take hours to explain why and you're not worth the time.

Conservatives say the wildest shit deliberately because for them it's not about reaching an understanding, it's about throwing their weight around for clout. By flinging enough nonsensical shit, they can hone in on whatever the other person doesn't immediately dispute as a gotcha, allowing them to skip over whatever brainrot easily disproven.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He thinks items in the US are getting tariffed based on like a production manifest that lists out the origin of each component

This, uh, does happen. It depends on the kind of item. When you're importing a wristwatch, for example, you have to separate out the country of origin and value for the strap/bracelet, case, and movement and they're handled separately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVwIyciIIiI

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

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