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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The amount of people that like to shit on the U.S. constantly

This has been my experience too. It's really quite off-putting.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was born in Seattle. Grew up in Los Angeles. I was taught American exceptionalism and said the national anthem every school day of my childhood, K-12.

And I believed it all.

My parents, my teachers, my ministers, my neighborhood police, my news sources: They all fucking lied to me, and did so willingly and maliciously like PragerU. The people of the US are fine (no better or worse than any other) but the society that depends on lying to children and jamming them through a doughboy-processing education system to make them interchangeable, disposable, replaceable laborers and soldiers to be expended on billionaire vanity projects really needs to burn.

The society of the United States sucks and, without comment on any other society. It needs to be set right. And I say that as a US citizen.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago

Sure, but I'm complaining about metric system memes and such.

[–] KuroJ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I was taught American exceptionalism and said the national anthem every school day of my childhood, K-12.

I was too and did the same, but I was taught to break away from the mold and usual thinking as a young adult pretty early on (thank you parents and to some of my teachers). I'm sorry to hear that those people in your life lied to you and never thought to help you break out of that mold.

The states is so vast that what you're saying doesn't always apply to another person. It's funny because you mention being born in Seattle and growing up in LA. Well I was born in Georgia and most people would have you believe living in the south is shit (which to be fair, some places are), but I can say my life experience has been completely different than yours.

As I mentioned before the states has its problems for sure but it's not all bad and your experience can vastly differ from another.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's a thing in most online forums but the reality is pretty opposite. It's a long dead joke at this point and I personally just roll my eyes and move on when I see it.

[–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can usually tell they are Eurotrash or incel Eastern European within the first 6 words for those types. I just end up blocking them.

I find most Europeans don't understand the size of the US and think thier tiny county somehow equates to what works in a country the size of the US. It's completely lost on them that the EU would be a more apt comparison and the dysfunction between the EU members puts the US dysfunction to shame, but the irony of that is lost on them. By comparison, the member states of the US are effectively a cohesive unit and we act as one and the states have each other's backs even when not required. We have interstate rivalry, but it's mostly good natured and completely forgotten when there's an outside threat. The EU, on the other hand, is a bunch of fiercely proud, independent entities that can barely function when lumped together and they tend to throw each other under the bus when it suits them. The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is incredible.

The US has it's problem, oh yes, but the EU isn't an example of how to run a union by any stretch and what works in a tiny country doesn't work in one where a single state is larger and more populace than that entire country.

When you can drive across a country in 2 or 3 hours, I just can't take it seriously as a country. It's like a clown car of a country.

[–] AlexTheTurtle@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Excuses. The richest country in the world and you guys settle for the shit slop your politicians feed you. Everywhere has its problems, but the fact that the US is so mediocre is embarrassing.

[–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 1 points 1 year ago

You are a perfect example of the Eurotrash of which I speak. 7 words into your sentence I could tell you were that kind of person. I said 6 in the OP, but you gave it 110%, awesome!