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[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would hope that if someone says "the extremely simple idea that". Then follows with a run on sentence with 130 words and like a dozen hesitations it is obviously a satire.

I suppose carnists do write some dumb shit though when fencing with their own values.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well you got reported on for defending carnism, so it's not so obvious.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

I guess there's no level of obviousness that won't appear sincere to someone

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Lol, lmao even. Well probably better people have a hair trigger vs being lax with such a destructive ideology. A quick glance at my posting history should make it rather clear what I believe.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was pretty sure that was the case, but everything you said was literally the exact reasoning I've seen presented as a solid argument against veganism. Sadly even here on hexbear sometimes, people have expressed the staunch belief that human brains are uniquely and exclusively the only kind that deserve recognition for their suffering. /s tags shouldn't be needed ideally, but especially on certain topics and when an entire comment is sarcasm, it can be hard to know with 100% certainty that it wasn't serious. Especially for people with certain types of neurodivergence like me.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

All good, across cultures tone and humour doesn't always translate well. There is also a literacy crisis in most (all?) English speaking countries which isn't helping. Given it is now often difficult to tell whether someone's writing is intentionally awful, or that they were subject to a shitty education.

Carnist arguments are awful. My hope is that when you string them all together, a few people who might present them as rebuttals individually pause and notice the precarious structure they form.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Completely agreed. It sometimes amazes me how unable carnists, especially the ones who "love animals," are to recognize their blatant hypocrisy for what it is: cringy rationalizations to justify behavior they're unwilling to change. I'm glad at least that in leftist spaces like this, the concept of "self crit" is better understood and accepted as a good thing to do, something everyone needs to do if they have any hope of examining all the bullshit that "western culture" has ingrained into us.

(Also for the record, I wasn't the one who reported your comment. Like i said, I was pretty sure you were being sarcastic, just not 100% certain).

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

(Also for the record, I wasn't the one who reported your comment. Like i said, I was pretty sure you were being sarcastic, just not 100% certain).

Ah comrade, I shall take you off the list then :p