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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I'm not as confident. Refining columns work reliably for decades requiring just a couple trays being replaced every now and then. RO membranes are generally fickle, need a lot of babying and require complete replacement every couple years.

There's also energy integration opportunities in a refinery to use the "waste" heat to preheat feeds and of course the feeds precool the hot top stream. Being a highly commoditized market pushes companies to drive three bottom line down.

I think we'll only see meaningful impact by phasing out of fossil fuels, not making their manufacture incrementally more efficient.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I'm aware some energy is recycled, and I do think we (humankind as a whole) need to phase fossil fuels out. But even then, we'll still need petrochemicals - and I'm hoping this sort of membrane eventually makes them cheaper, when used instead or alongside fractioning columns.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Do we really need petrochemicals, though? Or do we like the cheap products made from them? Because humanity went by just fine without them until a century ago.

[–] obbeel 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not that fine, though. Quality of life came a long way.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not because of petrochemicals. Fertilizers, agriculture mechanization, and medicine are the key factors. Plus we could do without all the microplastics and PFAS on my blood.

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