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[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would they "prove" something that's completely obvious?

I don’t want to be critical, but I think if you step back a bit and look and what you’re saying, you’re asking why we would bother to experiment and prove what we think we know.

That’s a perfectly normal and reasonable scientific pursuit. Yes, in a rational society the burden of proof would be on the grifters, but that’s never how it actually works. It’s always the doctors disproving the cure-all, not the snake oil salesmen failing to prove their own prove their own product.

There is value in this research, even if it fits what you already believe on the subject. I would think you would be thrilled to have your hypothesis confirmed.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The sticky wicket is the proof that humans (functioning 'normally') do more than pattern.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 6 points 19 hours ago

I think if you look at child development research, you'll see that kids can learn to do crazy shit with very little input, waaay less than you'd need to train a neural net to do the same. So either kids are the luckiest neural nets and always make the correct adjustment after failing, or they have some innate knowledge that isn't pattern-based at all.

There's even some examples in linguistics specifically, where children tend towards certain grammar rules despite all evidence in their language pointing to another rule. Pure pattern-matching would find the real-world rule without first modelling a different (universally common) rule.