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[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 70 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force. They'll take what they can get. I'm 100% pro Union, but another problem is that police unions help protect unfit (literally and figuratively) police from being forced to try harder by abusing protected status health claims. I've seen in both police and military, they are handed paperwork if they are not meeting fitness expectations, but nothing ever comes of it.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 52 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Police unions are the only bad union.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago

All labor unions are good. Police unions are not.

This is because police unions are not labor unions, since police are not labor but rather the enforcers for the owner class.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They’re illegal in many other countries

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force.

Counterpoint: Americans are already overpoliced and the "understaffing" is only relative to the authoritarians' desire to make us even more so.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

Makes sense. Maybe they wouldn't be understaffed if they were utilized in places that actually mattered to people

[–] derry@midwest.social 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 5 points 20 hours ago

...well shit. Too smart to be an officer is a thing.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 7 points 19 hours ago

You’re really setting yourself up here

[–] Sprinks@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I...i didnt realize this needed staffing...

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Additionally, cities that want physically fit officers have unions that demand that they are paid to work out. Cities don't want to pay for that.

So, usually the fitness requirements are only used when applying but aren't used when you are in the force.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 20 hours ago

cities that want physically fit officers have unions that demand that they are paid to work out

Seems fairly reasonable to me

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago

I live in Pittsburgh and there are literally no cops on duty from like 3-5 AM or something. We haven't had a police chief in years, and I never see cops unless there's a violent crime or a car accident or overdose. You can kinda do whatever you want in terms of traffic laws. I've never even heard of someone getting a traffic ticket in the city, and most times if you're actually goin the speed limit you're a hazard that isn't following the flow of traffic. Completely different story in the suburbs outside the city.

It kinda rules not gonna lie.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

France doesn’t let the police unionize, it’s the only group in the country explicitly and expressly forbade from unionizing. Police should never be allowed to unionize

[–] kaki@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The only group that can't unionize is the military, there's plenty of police unions in France.

[–] truite@jlai.lu 2 points 8 hours ago

And they unionize a lot.