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The 2 trillion figure is the minimum: it could be more than 6 trillion every year, and the elephant in the room is that more than half of those are factory farmed - which means humans are responsible for torturing them their entire lives.
"for the animals, it is an eternal Treblinka" - Isaac Bashevis Singer
being farmed isn't torture.
I beg to differ.
https://awionline.org/content/inhumane-practices-factory-farms
Maypull is not worth talking to. They're defending the cruel multi-billion dollar animal agriculture system no matter the cost to the animals, the environment and the workers.
torture means that pain/distressed are caused intentionally. like beating someone so they give up information. that's not the case in farming. sometimes, animals are caused pain or distress, but the point of the activity is not to cause it. if a farmer could raise their livestock and never cause them any pain or distress for the same cost, i'm sure they would. the pain is incidental, not intentional. it's not torture. qed.
yeah, killing the animals so you can consume their flesh, after all their lives being in a enclosed space designed to maximise the profits, isn't bad or torture for the animals. the bad things happening to them from that life is just a byproduct of wanting to use their corpses for other things, so it can be considered torture, right?
it doesn't matter what is the explicit or direct intent, they are being abused, mistreated and tortured, just for personal and human gain.
you can torture other people physically, emotionally or psychologicaly without it being the direct intent for your actions, but the torture will still be there.
torture is intentional. the pain and distress caused by farming is only incidental.
trolling or just willfully ignorant?
why not both?
Ah, technically correct, the best kind.
Okay, equivalent in unpleasantness to prolonged torture.
Depends massively on the farm and the practices.
Being a cow on a pasture looks okay most of the time. Factory farms should not exist.