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as someone who's had their food stolen by a seagull a few times i once found myself in a fit of petty rage googling "can i kill a seagull" and the answer is no, like legally you cannot, they're protected birds
I would suppose that depends on the jurisdiction.
it does not. Seagulls are protected in: UK, Ireland, all of Europe, all of North America, Mexico, Australia, Japan, Russia, and probably more but i can't be bothered to go past the first few Google searches to find out
Why are they protected? They're rats with wings.
I feel like the default is that you aren't allowed to kill animals. Not as in most laws outlaw killing any animal, just that there are probably a lot of laws about randomly killing animals that aren't like tiny bugs and stuff. Like you can't just kill a deer unless you have a hunting permit. You can't catch fish without a fishing license. Sure, you're probably allowed to kill animals on your property that are a nuisance or anywhere in defense, but I wouldn't just assume I can kill a random animal.
I think there's a clear difference between an animal that's a known nuisance and any other. If a rat and an emu both wander into my yard, the rat's life is forfeit, but I'm not gonna fuck with the emu for multiple reasons.
Probably for the best, they defeated the Australian army in the 1932 Emu war.
they're covered by migratory bird protection legislations from what i read. and some of the seagull spiecies are pretty endangered. can't tell you more than that, i just accepted that the sky thieves dickheads cannot be touched
I like how you said all of North America, and then also Mexico as if it wasn't part of NA.
And that UK and Ireland aren't a part of Europe?
I've heard Brits piss and moan that the UK isn't part of Europe before. Whether or not that has any merit I can't say, I'm not European.
I've never heard any Brit say UK isn't Europe. Are you confusing Europe, a continent one cannot secede from without moving tectonic plates or waiting billions of years, with EU, the European union, a political union?
And I've never actually seen a Hippopotamus, what's your point?
At what point did I mention plate tectonics or the European Union?
uhoh, my 2 from geography is showing (scale from 1-6, with 1 being fail)
It's okay. I live in a glass house, so I shouldn't throw stones.
You might break something!
I got a 2 in literary metaphors.
Well thanks for your exhaustive legal research.
What we need is someone versed in bird law.
https://birdfact.com/articles/are-seagulls-protected-in-the-uk
Protected status in the UK. "[T]hey are protected by law. This means it is illegal to kill, injure, or capture a gull."
HTH.
Ok, now what does jurisdiction mean?
dictionary.com is a good place to start.
they're also protected in China and India, which together with the other ones accounts for like 70% of the world. are they protected everywhere? probably not, there are definitely some countries that have little to no wildlife protection legislations, but i'm not exactly a seagull murder law expert, nor do i want to become one, so i'll stop at that
Hmmm. I mean I guess I get mentioning UK separate from the EU, but idk about Ireland, isn't it part of the EU?
To be very clear, I'm not trying to contradict that it's illegal to kill seagulls in a lot of places.
yea i'm bad at geography
It's okay, I couldn't name all 50 states on a map.
Unless...... you do it in self-defense