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They also gonna bring handcuffs so they can cuff themselves for the cops?
I've been doing a lot of work with 50501/Indivisible recently. Because my account is somewhat linked to my real identity I can't be too specific or critical. But here's my take:
"Kool Karyn" is almost definitely a member of Indivisible, a nationwide Liberal anti-Trump org whose membership is almost exclusively old, middle-class, white liberals.
In my (majority-black) city, a majority-black protest of 30 will get drones and snipers and tear gas. Indivisible got 2,500 (almost all older, white) people out at a public park protest and the only cops we saw were probably just on their regular patrols.
I'm gonna punch against the grain: Karen is giving perfectly reasonable advice for her contingent, for the kinds of protests that her organization is organizing. You can criticize their politics, their strategy, their class relations - but cops are not going to drive an AV through a crowd of kneeling white boomers. And the way her post is phrased, at least, does not imply that she is giving general advice to all protestors - just the people going to this particular protest, which will almost certainly be 90% old white libs who are in practically no danger of police violence.
And just like a bunch of black students were shot at Jackson State and no one cared but when a few white students were at Kent State it was suddenly a big deal, if the old white libs do come under fire, the public and media will care. And, for their politics and class position, that's actually somewhat brave - old white libs are never going to riot, but (and trust me, I don't mean this in a hateful way) the most useful things they can do at a protest that is within their temperament and ability is commit to nonviolence and have violence brought unto them by the state.
Fair enough but it's still lib as fuck
This is the essence of "meeting people where they're at", though. You are not going to turn a significant percentage of the white middle class into disciplined Marxists. The material conditions don't exist for it.
It's like, I'm in the PSL and we organize a lot of protests. Our local Indivisible branch is pretty cool as far as Libs go - they're willing to work with us, they're willing to learn, they're pro-trans rights and lean towards Palestine (but Indivisible at the national level forbids local branches from doing Palestine stuff because they're full of Zionists). And they have thousands of members, in a relatively small city.
But recently they've been expressing anxiety to me about liability - that they haven't been able to get event insurance for their protests, that they're being told they need insurance to get permits, that they believe in going through "the proper channels" especially because we live in a Democrat city. They're worried about prosecution or lawsuits because they're professional-class boomers, they have qualifications (legal/medical/engineering/etc.) that can be taken away, they have houses they could lose in a lawsuit, they have kids and grandkids to take care of.
It comes down to material conditions. The more I work with them, the more empathetic I try to be - they're doing what can be expected of them wrt their class position in society. They're not Marxists but they're never going to be.
I don't understand your point. It seems like we both agree that it's some lib shit
It is lib shit, but at least it's "Liberals being Liberals" and not "Liberals scolding leftists for not being Liberals"
Isn't that the exact intent of their post here?
i don't think this is going to last much longer
That just reminds me of the difference in Texas between white people open carrying vs black people
https://youtu.be/pYKlHQJkcHk
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: