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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

At least some US leaders knew about these strikes beforehand:

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, they always know.

The question is how invovled were they in the attack itself (logistics, access to US surveillance, planning, etc.)

Trump seems to be implying this is "off hands" like he stopped engaging the Houthis in the red sea a while back.

I wonder if this is Netanyahu thrashing a bit in an effort to keep the US invovled, or the US proxying an Iranian attack with more plausible deniability.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

US proxying an Iranian attack with more plausible deniability.

Why does the US care about that aspect. If the US wanted to it could directly attack Iran, and the only thing China or Russia would do is "tsk-tsk" the US. No one is going to bat for Iran, especially against the US.

[–] str82L@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Maybe because Trump claimed to be anti war when campaigning? Not that he ever seems to give a shit about being hypocritical.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

One of the al-jazeera posters thinks that's unlikely, and it's more likely that Israel is having a "now or never" moment since Trump entered negotiations with Iran.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems more likely to me that the US lured Iran into false negotiations as a cover for what they had planned with Israel

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

This is the most probable scenario, USA time and time again proven they are not interested with real nuclear compromise with Iran (or with anyone else for that matter).

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's hard to know for sure, and either scenario is very plausible. Israel is certainly doing everything it can to force Trump's hand here. Iran will have no choice but to respond, and then the Israeli lobby will put maximum pressure on the US to strike at Iran in response.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The cry bully strategy has worked for them so many times in western media.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago
[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Al-Jazeera has repeatedly taken the opportunity to reframe the relationship between Israel and the rest of the imperial core as a domineering one. They have repeatedly undercut the resistance by painting them as the aggressors, "only making things worse" for the Palestinians. This only serves the US narrative.

[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Dawg, I am at my wit's end with online communism posting. Why are we taking Qatari news media at face value in the year of our lord 2025

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Of course they did, this is their porn. They've been beating the war drum on behalf of Israel for 20 years. Some of them have even been saying we should nuke Gaza & kill all the Palestinians. That is how sick these people are.