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Lesser evil
Even that might be going too far. It's more "the enemy of my enemy" situation.
Nope, definately a lesser evil. By a lot.
Agree to disagree.
Nah, you're just biased against non-white countries. There's no metric by which it's close otherwise
They're both non white by American standards, and they are both white for our standard, so keep projecting.
Lol. Israel is absolutely a White country, and Iran absolutely isn't. Trying to pretend that isn't the case is absurd
Nope, lesser evil means exactly what it sounds like.
If Iran gets its hands on a nuclear weapon it's going to be a bad time. Might not be a lesser evil. They have showed how little regard they have for their own citizens, imagine those of other countries.
This conflict both reduces the amount of bombings in Gaza and distances Iran from getting a nuke, but it would be hard for me to say who's the bigger evil.
Definitely are a lesser evil, quit imagining things. I'd trust Iran with nukes more than the US, we're the only people in history to actually use them and we dropped them on civilians both times.
The US also massacred the indigenous population and a whole series of historic crimes, but we are talking about 2025.
Is there a statute of limitations on using nuclear weapons? Doesn't matter, you're still wrong either way
There is. Once a person is dead, you kinda cannot judge them anymore.
Iran's leader issued a fatwa on nuclear weapons.
And said he would change it "if needed".
That is true of literally every fatwa.
So it's useless.
Are laws useless because they can be appealed, reinterpreted, or ammended?
By one person on a whim? Yes.
By a democratically elected parliament, after debate, scrutiny and a vote? No.
I mean that one person was elected by imams who themselves were elected by their congregations. And its silly to pretend theres not endless debate before a fatwa is issued.
Iran isnt a democracy, but it does have democratic elements.
But once he is in power he can decide to rescind it, specially as the military requests it more and more. Even more now as attacks escalate.
Sure, and so can any executive of any nuclear state. But presumably it would be unpopular among the imams who elected the "nuclear weapons are haram" guy, who can dismiss him at will, just as Id hope any other state that has a mechanism to recall the executive would.
Democratic countries usually put this to a vote of some parliament, there's no king/ayatollah/dictator. So maybe China could do it, but France Britain or India wouldn't.
I know America could, I think France could too.
You would basically have to think Palestinians aren't human to say it's not obvious who the lesser evil is
No, both Palestinians and Iranians are human, and both Israel and Iran are evil murderous regimes with disregard to human life.
And one has killed multiple orders of magnitude more humans, is trying to kill even more, and is the aggressor in this case. The British Empire was an evil murderous regime, but if someone was saying they weren't the obvious lesser evil in World War 2, I would assume they are a Nazi
Because Iran isn't capable of murdering people with the impunity that Israel has, not because they don't want to, or wouldn't if given the chance. If they get nukes that would change.
Following your example, Britain (and America) were both bad and the obvious lesser evil in ww2, but the Soviet union less so. They had their own genocide(s) they just weren't able to scale it up fast enough before getting invaded.
You have zero evidence of this, just rascism and vibes. This is basically what a Russian supporter would say about Ukraine. This is what the US did say about Iraq. This is what every imperialist prick says to justify their aggression.
And even if it was true, the actual, real life, actually happening genocide that Israel is committing is worse than the one you imagine Iran might.
I'm going to stop you right there. If you think it's "obvious" that the western allies were lesser evils but can't tell that Iran is, you are a white supremacist. It's that simple. Remember, unlike Iran, the British Empire committed actual genocide.
Only if you're a Holocaust denier.
And this is just straight up false.
I have family killed by the Soviet union in the 1940s, so I don't care about your uneducated opinion defending a genocidal regime.
Typical ml user.
K, lots of people have family killed by the British Empire and the US, and the Nazis. But apparently you think you're the main character and the only person who matters. Maybe you should learn you're not the centre of the universe before chiding others about being uneducated, given you should've learned that in preschool.
Nah, genocide denial is not cool no matter what Whataboutism or meme you try.
The foreign invaders committing genocide is more evil than the indigenous regressive government.
I disagree, but I guess it's a matter of opinion.
No it's a matter of verifiable fact, your opinion is incorrect
Not really, but you can have your opinion.
Not even that for me, it's just Israel's hypocrisy.
Even if we accept every single bit of western propaganda about Iran at face value it would still objectively be far less harmful than Israel, and the odds that our media is exaggerating and/or completely making shit up to manufacture consent for another war in the middle east are pretty good
Iran beats women to death for violating Hijab laws.
Israel has murdered more women in the last year than Iran has in decades.
Israel beats and bombs and starves women for no reason at all, and men and children.
Lesser. Evil.