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Did you ever daydream that you're a wizard? Or maybe an astronaut, or a superhero, or a secret agent? Perhaps when you snapped back to reality, you were left with an internal grin and a feeling of "heh, that would have been cool. Oh, well." Let's assume in your fantasy you were an astronaut, because although they exist, you probably aren't one.

Possibly you've had that dream, or one along the same lines, several times. Maybe more, now you come to think of it, and they started... hmm, as long as you can remember? Nothing strange about that, all kids daydream about that kind of thing. Astronauts are rare, but they've been around since before you were born, and occasionally show up in films and on TV. But when they do, they're the object of ridicule: the other characters treat the astronaut as some kind of freak, and joke about them. I don't get it, you think: being an astronaut sounds pretty cool. But your friends and family don't bat an eye at these films. You take note: astronauts aren't cool, and you'd better not let on about that daydream.

Life goes on, you grow up, and most of the time when you drift away from whatever conversation you're not listening to, you're thinking about being up there in orbit, or walking on the moon. In your spacesuit. Yeah, that would be nice. Once or twice you may read about or see a documentary on actual astronauts, and while you pretend not to be interested, every word etches itself into your memory. Just some more trivia to add to your general knowledge, you tell yourself.

You'd never deliberately seek it out, but coming across information about astronauts is always a happy acccident, and you're glad to fill in any gaps in your knowledge. You know the training schedule pretty much by heart. In all the interviews, the message is the same: "I always knew I wanted to be an astronaut; I told my parents about it almost as soon as I could speak." Strangely, you feel almost jealous.

Perhaps you have some posters of the moon up in your room. Or maybe a discreet NASA logo on your shirt. Or played an astronaut in an RPG. It doesn't mean anything; you're just so secure in your identity as "not an astronaut" that you can do it without feeling ashamed. In fact, it's almost... exciting?

One day you come across a post by someone about your age, who gave up their career as an accountant to join the space program. Turns out they didn't know all along, and just figured it out one day. That sticks in your throat a bit: some folk have all the luck. Wait, what?

You can't shake the feeling that there's something missing from your life. Something big. It's not like you're depressed, or anything, but everything just seems so... gray. Pointless. You don't hate yourself, but you wouldn't be too bothered if it all just ended one day.

And then, at last, you figure it out.

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[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel a bit self conscious about my thoughts / reactions to this post, so I wanted to put them behind a spoiler tag like some kind of huge asterisks that my thoughts are sorta dumb and maybe inappropriate or ruins it by analyzing it too much, but maybe I wanted to write them anyway. So feel free to read them or not, I just don't want to be a bother 😊

my thoughtsSooo, I'm only a little confused by the analogy:

Astronauts are rare, but they’ve been around since before you were born, and occasionally show up in films and on TV. But when they do, they’re the object of ridicule: the other characters treat the astronaut as some kind of freak, and joke about them. I don’t get it, you think: being an astronaut sounds pretty cool. But your friends and family don’t bat an eye at these films. You take note: astronauts aren’t cool, and you’d better not let on about that daydream.

This makes "astronaut" seem like it's a stand in for being transgender in particular.

Maybe this is just because I'm old, but I have never particularly wanted to be trans (meanwhile I have wanted to be a woman despite being assigned male at birth; even as a person who has transitioned I still don't want to be "trans" really - that's just what I happen to be because I wish to be the opposite sex).

What I can't tell is if this analogy is about wanting to be another gender, or about wanting to be transgender in particular - or am I way overthinking this and one is basically the other, the desire to be the other gender is maybe too direct or painful or for some other reason isn't the literal object of desire, so it gets displaced and the literal target of desire becomes wanting to be trans (maybe because that's the the "closest" you can be to the actual desire or something, tbh this psychology sounds like pre-transition or early-transition mentality).

Some people see a trans person and see a mix of gender traits, and I think some people obviously want to be that way - they value and desire being a mix of genders, some people want to be genderqueer or that kind of non-binary - and I guess that's ultimately where my question lies - what is the desire to be an "astronaught", is it to be this mix of genders?

Just to be clear, you don't have to answer this, I'm more musing than seriously pressing or expecting an answer - the question might be too personal or inappropriate, so please feel free to ignore me 😅

[–] lwhjp@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 19 hours ago

I'm flattered that you felt my ramblings were worth ruminating on <3

In case anyone's interested my explanation is below.

Pretentious nonsense aheadThis all came from an idle thought I had that transitioning is kind of like if I always dreamed I had magic powers, and then one day it turned out I actually did! Like, a totally impossible dream has actually come true. I am euphoric and very thankful that I get to do this. Unfortunately, a certain author (who shall not be named) has made wizard analogies problematic.

You are correct that this is a loose analogy. Being an "astronaut" is standing in both for the opposite sex in general, and being trans in particular (I'll speak in fem terms from now on). Growing up I always fantasized about being a (cis) woman, but I was aware that that was impossible. I'd also heard about trans people, and there was a pretty clear separation between "[cis] women" and "trans women" in my mind. Because I was "obviously" not a trans woman, the latter didn't hold much relevance to me, and my impossible daydreams were just that. (Transitioning always seemed to me like something I'd definitely want to do "if I was trans", but I don't think I honestly thought of trans women as "real" women).

There's also some psychology at play here, as you say. ContraPoints talks about it in her video on Envy, but as I learned more and more about trans people, I started to get very jealous: this was clearly a realistic goal for someone like me, if only I was trans. It was one small step (sorry) from there to my egg cracking.

So while in reality my fantasy morphed from "what if I was born a woman" to "what if I transitioned", that's a distinction that perhaps doesn't need to be made if one is pitching the analogy to be at least partially understandable by a non-trans person. And there's a bit of irony too to blur the distinction between women in general and trans women in particular, because of course trans women are women 😉

TL;DR: it's deliberately vague.