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A man who was believed to be part of a peacekeeping team for the “No Kings” protest in Salt Lake City shot at a person who was brandishing a rifle at demonstrators, striking both the rifleman and a bystander who later died at the hospital, authorities said Sunday.

Police took the alleged rifleman, Arturo Gamboa, 24, into custody Saturday evening on a murder charge, Salt Lake City Police Chief Brian Redd said at a Sunday news conference. The bystander was Arthur Folasa Ah Loo, 39, a fashion designer from Samoa.

Detectives don’t yet know why Gamboa pulled out a rifle or ran from the peacekeepers, but they accused him of creating the dangerous situation that led to Ah Loo’s death. The Associated Press did not immediately find an attorney listed for Gamboa or contact information for his family in public records.

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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sorry, how many protesters were shot and killed by law enforcement this weekend?

Listen, I take your point, but the killing of random civilians isn't better.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-florida-deputy-repeatedly-shoot-man-thinking-falling-acorn-rcna138829

Believing police in the USA are anything near well trained or disciplined is naive at best. This incident is only one amongst many of the police using their firearm irresponsibly.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/28/fact-check-cosmetology-vs-police-training-comparison-lacks-context/5653808002/

According to the state Department of Safety and Professional Services, applicants for a cosmetology license must complete at least 1,550 hours — or about 39 weeks if you assume 40 hours per week — of training at a licensed cosmetology school. The program must last a minimum of 10 months. 

As of 2016, anyone who applies to be a law enforcement officer or tribal law enforcement officer in Wisconsin must undergo 720 hours, or 18 weeks, of training — even less than what the Facebook post claimed. The training curriculum for jail and juvenile detention officers is 160 hours.

As always please read the articles for the full picture and nuance.

Wisconsin is not an outlier in this. There are many jobs in the USA that take more training than the police which do not carry deadly weapons and have blanket immunity to use them.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Believing police in the USA are anything near well trained or disciplined is naive at best.

Correct, which is why it's not an opinion I expressed.

My statement was that giving untrained, undisciplined people weapons is a bad thing. The point was to address the whataboutism of "they're out there shooting us right now," not to defend the absolute joke that is police in the United States.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's hard to tell from this one report but it doesn't seem like this was a particularly bad outcome. Of course it's unfortunate that a bystander was killed but it sounds like they successfully prevented an even worse outcome. Besides, there are tons of stories of cops injuring or killing more than one bystander in situations like this. When it comes down to it I'm more inclined to trust the judgment of a commited private citizen than the police.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Now that I've discovered the rest of the article beyond the wall of ads, I agree. I had partial information, and wrongly believed it was all the information, as the blob of ads on my mobile device was a whole screen. That, combined with being on the way out the door in the morning, led me to believe I had read everything and everyone in this thread is insane. Thenn, someone made a specific reference to something I hadn't read and I was prompted to go look, discovering there is much more article beyond our corporate sponsored break.

I legit thought they scared a dude with a rifle into fleeing, and then shot at him instead of letting him get away.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Hundreds have been shot by law enforcement the last couple weeks at various protests.