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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Single issue voters always make the world a worse place.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I find it crazier that the dems decided to make genocide a voting issue in the first place. Weaponized incompetence, I swear. They could have told Israel to pound sand, but they chose a foreign state over us. They screwed you too man, have a spine.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

but the democrats have to appeal to their zionist money-givers too! it's difficult for them to strike a balance between the money-givers and the people who are supposed to vote for them.

and the people who should vote for them aren't directly hit personally by the israel genocide, so why would they care too much about that?

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, but it's not the ONLY thing going on. Would you let the rest of the world burn to stop genocide in the middle east? I'm guessing not.

So if there is a massive problem that we can't directly take action to fix, you try to attack the source of the problem or other adjacent problems.

This idea that the Dems need to be fully against it or I'll never vote for them is naive. If the alternative is WW3 with 10x the deaths or continued genocide I don't like either but I'm not going to sit on the sidelines while WW3 starts and complain about the dems stance as the reason I didn't try to prevent it. Maintaining a moral high ground at the expense of people isn't ok. Yes they could have done a million things better or different, but they didn't. We had a choice to make with the options we had. Some people rejected reality and ushered in this shit storm so they could keep their concussion clean, it's selfish. They'd rather have peace of mind than actually prevent suffering, because they had a chance to and didn't.

There are other people, other children suffering because of Trump that would not have been if Harris won. That's just fact. Preventing him from getting in office or not, the events in the middle east remain the same, but those other lives impacted could have been prevented. We need to open up our world view and have it grounded in reality.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

So if there is a massive problem that we can't directly take action to fix, you try to attack the source of the problem or other adjacent problems.

I think that is the crux of the issue. I don't see condemning Israel and stopping the sale of weapons as some massive wall. The dems failed to take action and I'm taking action right now by holding them accountable for it.

The fact is they didn't even try to solve the issue. Israel themselves admitted to it. I consider it their fault Trump won and even more people have to suffer. I see the constant scapegoating post-election as serving nothing except enabling them.

They need to be told their platform, built on foreign genocide and apathy, is literally atrocious. We need to demand change, not give them an easy way out.

Nah, people who didn't vote for Harris screwed the world.

Glad to hear you're not one of them.