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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

When has the US military defended the nation? I got the impression that they're mostly used for invading foreign countries for financial gain, cf Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Panama, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Cuba, Guatemala, Korea.

[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Not saying you're wrong in general but we didn't invade Kuwait.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Fair, taking it off the list. It just comes up naturally when I list the horrible things the US has done bc of the highway of death. Still an example of the US military not defending the US, but definitely not an invasion of Kuwait. Thanks for the correction, I was sloppy!

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. That's kind of America's whole thing. Making money. Exploiting everything. Americans are the Ferengi.

Defending America = defending capitalism = doing whatever they can to make American, capitalist companies more profitable.

I don't hate capitalism. Don't get me wrong, but I generally don't like capitalists.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Capitalists are what makes capitalism capitalism. How can you hate one without the other?

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

No one is immune to propaganda

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is what Americans call "defending the nation"; making war in other countries than their own, believing themselves to be the world police.

I think America has only ever been attacked... Twice... In all of history (Pearl Harbour and 9/11), and both times the defense was pretty piss poor.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Japan also invaded the aleutian islands.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

America was attacked hundreds of times. The native people lost.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure either of these events can even be counted as an attack. Pearl Harbour is roughly 3800km from the mainland. It's basically an overseas territory. An attack there is like saying the Falkland War was an attack on the UK.

And 9/11 was a terrorist attack, not a war. While it was a big attack, it was still only carried out by a handful of non-state-actors. That's quite a different thing than an actual military attack by a country.

Afaik, the last war on US soil was the civil war.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Hawaii was not a state for almost 2 decades after pearl harbor, so yeah.

The original white house was burned to the ground by British/Canadian troops in 1814.

Not to mention about 100 different American Indian Wars, though some of those were more slaughter than war.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

The original white house was burned to the ground by British/Canadian troops in 1814.

Yeah, ok, that counts as a war on US soil, but that's still over 200 years ago.

Not to mention about 100 different American Indian Wars, though some of those were more slaughter than war.

Hard to really count them as wars for the reason you mentioned.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 0 points 19 hours ago

Invasion is the defense.