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Was Che an adventurist? (hexbear.net)
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I’ve been listening to Guerrilla Warfare this week and it’s just had me thinking about Che more generally, particularly how he was essentially killed trying to replicate the Cuban pattern in Bolivia.

Was his strategy adventurist? Did it become adventurist by applying it in the wrong conditions? Were the Cuban revolutionaries just adventurists that got lucky - (Fidel wasn’t even communist at the time so it’s hard to say they were following some kind of Leninist line)? Do we just call armed insurrections adventurism if they fail, heroism if they win?

I wouldn’t consider myself an expert on Che or the movements he fought in, I know a decent amount about Cuba, but very little about his time in Africa or elsewhere. Looking to start a discussion and hopefully be educated by comrades who are more well-read on this topic.

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Am I remembering correctly that he wanted to get nukes from USSR to nuke the US thinking it would lead to a proletarian revolution, too?

I love Che and he's handsome as fuck but he was still human like anyone else.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Mao condemned Kruschev for not starting a war with the US over the Cuban Missile Crisis. Like a hot war.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

I think at that point in the Cold War, with the power of the global socialist movements, it would have been incorrect to basically kamikaze into (adequately strategic targets in) America, but it's not as unreasonable as it sounds out of context, and certainly not as senseless as the ideas of post-being-tortured-out-of-his-mind Posadas. If it actually worked, that's NATO being nearly caved in without a strong causus belli against the rest of the socialist world. The main issue is that it probably would not work.

I have no idea if he actually believed either version of what we said, I just think it would be more forgivable than it might sound, though still incorrect.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not as read on Che as I am on Stalin so I couldn't answer you on the veracity of your question

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Hmm. I read Che so long ago I can't remember anymore.