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[–] ftbd@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Aren't there a lot more civilian gun owners than law enforcement? I thought that was the idea behind the second amendment

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago

I thought that was the idea behind the second amendment

No, the idea was that a good militia is all you need to keep a country safe, and that a federal army is a tool for government oppression. That's what the writers saw all over Europe at the time, so they made sure the fix that in their new country.

And then everyone pretended that wasn't the case

Most gun owners are right wing.

Democratic jurisdictions had "may issue"* laws that allows cops to deny you a gun permit. The Democratic establishment keeps pushing out propaganda that "guns are bad".

This is a great way to discourage minority gun ownership while promoting gun ownership to conservative white men.

If ranked choice exist, I'd rank Democrats very close to last (only republicans and other right wing parties would be ranked lower)

*Since the 2022 Bruen decision, the US Supreme Court has struck down most "may issue" laws. Ironically the 6 right wing dipshits made a right decision. Broken clock, twice a day.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It’s laughable that anyone in their right mind could think civilians have any chance to stop this with violence. Any attempt even hinting in that direction will shut down the country and martial law will be enacted- and trust me when I say this-

Trump WANTS that to happen. This is the desired outcome for him. I’d imagine the man salivated over footage of Tiananmen Square.

And it should probably be contrast… Trump could read the headline of a newspaper over your shoulder… FROM SPACE, should he so much as want to. What exactly do you think some folks with a few assault rifles is going to do against a military that has the capability to turn entire cities into a fine pink mist?

No. In abject complacency, this bed was made decades ago. And there’s no turning that clock back now. It’s done. This is how shit is going to be.

The only thing to stop this regime from doing what it does, is for another regime to do what it does. So… That’s where we are now.

And frankly, if you think about it- there little worth saving anyway. It’s not like shit was prosperous prior to Trump’s rule. America is a shit-show. Has been for a while now.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Technically you only need one bullet. A lot of this support for Maga in the US hinges on just one guy. Who would replace him? There is no one who will gain as much traction. And remember: as long as dictators die, liberty will never perish.

Next in line is JD "Couchfucker" Vance, which is like Trump, but with more brains (and totally onboard with project 2025); and even if you get him too, the next in line is Christofascist Mike Johnson, who would probably go the shortest route to Gilead if both his predecessors got assassinated.

That's more shooting luck than anyone will ever get, even if the Secret Service didn't look too hot when Trump got shot at.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s an unending line of people just as in corrupt as he is just waiting for their turn. In a pit such as theirs, there’s no feeling where one snake ends, and the next one begins- so there’s no cutting of the head of it here.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

And yet none of them are able to gather the support Trump has for some reason. DeSantas tried and got nowhere.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Because there was a Trump.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He only got nowhere because it was him versus Trump.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

Right, something Trump has is stronger than what these other people have.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Trump WANTS that to happen. This is the desired outcome for him.

Trump wants people to not resist him at all. He's still trying to retaliate against places where the "No Kings" protests took place and those were completely peaceful.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

This is the insidious thing about authoritarianism. Once they have power, they can crush any dissent no matter what the dissenters do.

Peaceful protest? Crush it. If it gains any actual traction, just pretend it’s violent to justify violent oppression. Facts don’t matter and words can casually justify any action, no matter how heinous.

But violent opposition? The authoritarians dream of this, because it’s justification to bring everything they have to bear with zero accountability or justification. And since they are in power, they will have much greater force at their disposal. This is why Americas founders originally opposed the very idea of a professional standing army.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know it's not feasible, but that is the argument that second amendment proponents make all the time. I would have expected to see them try, at least

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Well, we all knew then it was never about that.