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Look at this dumb asshole that got the $2500-2600 (assuming queen mattress) plus $17/mo or 199/yr subscription mattress cover (eg not the actual fucking mattress or bed frame). What a broke piece of shit. Should’ve gotten the $2850-2950 pod 6
After briefly googling what this actually is and the costs involved I have 0 sympathy for anyone involved. This is 100% tech bro bullshit. A temperature controlled bed sounds neat, I guess, and I am always a sucker for analytics, but this is possibly the most consumer hostile bullshit I have ever seen. It is all of the worst practices of modern tech wrapped into a device:
Grossly overpriced? Check
$350 upsell for physical controls? Check
Tons of vague language about health benefits that extrapolate valid claims onto their product, suggesting their product has benefits beyond something far cheaper (eg temperature does impact sleep but a $10 fan or $150 window unit would likely be fine because research is generally about environment and not about the surface of the bed)? Zero research about the device itself and zero funding for them to get this product investigated? Check
Subscription required? Not technically, core functionality still works, but you lose all the analytics, all the “smart adjustments” of temperature (it basically will just hold a constant temperature throughout the night whereas the subscription will adjust it gradually based on movement) and the biggest point is that your warranty is voided and you lose all support if you don’t maintain a subscription
Also while I don’t know this for sure I am betting there is 0 chance that you can fix this thing if it breaks.
This thing is so dumb and if you buy it I will judge you. You could buy a 2001 Honda accord LX with 141,000 miles. for that price. That’s a reliable car. I had one and drove it to 200k, sold it and I’m sure it ran for a while longer. Maintain it well and you’ll get 250-300k out of that bad boy. Meanwhile your dumb water bed cover will break and leak all over which is apparently so bad people all worry about all the posts theyve seen about leaking and the social media team has to come share blog post about how they make them less shitty now. sorry if you got the first batch, i guess. But it’s okay because as dumb redditors point out you can give them another $500 to extend the warranty to 5 years. Just remember to keep that subscription active or that warranty is void you stupid piece of shit.
you still need a fucking mattress! You know someone buying this isn’t throwing it on a $400 ikea mattress. They’re going for the $3200 foam mattress. I am so mad about this
Edit: it also sells the biometric data its harvests about you to advertisers. Reddit posts show it uploads anywhere from 10-30gb of data per month, so it’s collecting quite a bit of data
tbh until I read ur comment I just assumed this was a shitpost tweet making fun of the state of consumer electronics, not a real product
I bought a gleeb for my glibben needs but it has no interoperability with floob, so I bought an adaptor from Amazon with a weird brand name made of plastic... etc etc
Just buy a blanket...?
This product is more for people that run hot during the night. Especially for couples where one runs hot and the other runs cold during the night. And the cold one doesn’t want to sleep with ac on all night. With this product the hot sleeper can just turn on the bed cooler on their side to cooldown. So a blanket wouldn’t help in that situation. There are other brands that don’t require internet or a subscription. And yes if you only buy this product to warm your mattress than you are stupid.
Without elaborating too much, this is my situation, and we solve this by having the room cold for him and blankets for me. Actually, the situation is much better when our insurance stops jerking us around about his medication that fixes his night sweating and other related problems, but we're American, so can't be helped.
It just seems like a lot of trouble when you can buy a blanket idk.
Honestly, I'm the one paying for a subscription service that doesn't help (insurance), so I guess I'm the clown here.
Well I did say that this is for people that don't like to have the AC on all night, like when the cold sleeper keeps complaining about a cold head or the noise. Like not everyone lives in the US where HVAC is the norm many people in the world have those big AC units hanging on the wall that can be pretty noisy.
Those things aren't too bad unless they need repair/replace....meanwhile you are recommending a solution that starts at like $2500 that only works while you're in the bed.
Most of the USA has HVAC, but not everyone. I grew up without it. We had in-window units and box fans. You get used to it quickly.
I'm sorry, I'm just not seeing this as anything but an expensive luxury (that doesn't have physical buttons unless u paid???). Seems pretty silly to pretend its anything but that.
Than is not then
No warranty without a subscription should be illegal
In countries with less Freedom^TM^ it almost certainly is.
Freedumb™️
Internet of Things is a scam
While the IKEA mattress is fine for you or me, I really don't think this smart mattress is actually that expensive. I believe 5k and up is still relatively common for a high quality mattress.
When you annualise it over 10 years and between two people, if they're getting better sleep than they would have otherwise, who are we to judge how they spend their money? It's actually not that bad in terms of value. There are nights in the summer where I would gladly pay €200 to not be sweating into the sheets.
Obviously, relying on a company for an app to control your bed is the idiotic part. But the price itself is not outrageous for me.
It would be a bit pricey as a mattress... But it isn't a mattress, it's only a cover, you also need a mattress.
They used to sell a mattress, but they "improved" the product by cost reducing out the mattress part and making you buy that from someone else (while also increasing the price).
When I bought a Pod Mattress+Cover, it was on the higher end of normal-ish price for a mattress with no mandatory subscription fee.
Now you are paying $3k for just a cover and have to at least pay $17/month to keep it actually working.
So I wrote a lot of word salad there and maybe this point got lost:
This device is not a mattress
It is a mattress topper
So you buy your bougie $2500 mattress (because of course someone buying this is not cheaping out on a mattress) and fancy bed frame. Then you spend another $3000 on this. Then *another * 200ish dollars a year, in perpetuity, to make it work (not including electrical costs and water)
But at that point why not pay >€200 for a window unit air conditioner and the >€1 in electricity for the day to run it overnight? If you don’t have a window that can accommodate you can get ones that stand in the room. A dehumidifier. A fan. None of these require apps or subscriptions (yet), cost substantially less, and again the research about sleep temperature is about the environment, not the bed itself
They sell a mattress as well. It’s a bit more integrated.
They do not anymore. They sell a cover, base, and blanket, but now require you otherwise acquire a mattress elsewhere.
Sorry, there is no quality difference in mattresses that would warrant price difference above a few hundred dollars. This simple hasn't been true for almost two decades. No mattress should cost $5000.
The best mattress I've owned was like $1500 and has lasted me 15 years now. Even with inflation, your figure is quite high
Isn't he some semi-famous tech YouTuber? I would be surprised if he actually had bought this product.
he is very famous in the tech sphere at this point i think
He mostly makes videos going about tech articles and giving his mind about it but sometimes explaining some things about the choices he made on his setup/projects (i think the latter videos are better).
Famous enough even that some junior devs/viewers copy him. (i remember some rumors/sm-posts that senior devs dont like it BUT cant make anyone happy)
I personally dislike him* but there are a lot that like him.
*reasons for why i disliking him (its a wall of text, sorry, its not even productive)
I know that the first video i saw was really bad and got me into avoiding his videos.Dont even know if it was because he talked bs or if i just thought he was weird.
Did not treat him like a credible source until i watched a better video a few months after.
So i was biased from the start
A while ago he made a video about an article/reportage where the creators asked him nicely to delete/change/share-revenue because it was like 95% their content and the rest him saying something and he completely flipped how they dare after he gave them so much exposure.
He also backlashed against another creator who defended the company and spoke out against him.
To my knowledge Theo still things he was the one wronged.
Less important to my reasoning: He is actively working on an AI app thing (combines different AIs into 1 app)
I have one of these and it’s one of the best purchases I’ve ever made. You don’t have to believe me. In any case, it just runs off of a Linux computer. You can install OSS firmware on it.
I genuinely believe that it’s nice to have a temperature controlled bed that gives you analytics. Like I said, those are cool things
The issue is that it’s wrapped in classic big tech bullshit. A sheen of “cool design” that looks lame to justify an outrageous price tag. That would not be the worst thing in the world if it wasn’t coupled with a ton of tremendously anticonsumer practices
I simply cannot see how anyone could justify giving a company who will void your warranty if you do not pay them continually for years after already paying them thousands at the onset. That is no longer a warranty, it is an ongoing service contract and it implies you never had a warranty or support to begin with. You gave them 3 grand for a product that they do not support. I can somewhat understand tying advanced server sided features to a subscription model. though really you should get at least 1-2 years of service with such a high price tag and honestly if there is a SBC can it really not run locally? Of course it can’t because looking deeper still they harvest your biometric data to sell it, of fucking course as if they weren’t making enough off the insane price tag and subscription costs. As if they weren’t checking off every big tech scumbag box already.
Also, so I can put Linux on it? So what? Fat lot of good that will do me when the pad starts leaking and needs a warranty replacement. It appears that if the pad fails and warranty is suspended that’s a 5-700 dollar replacement, plus shipping and restrictions on 3rd party repair. Do I just pay them $17 a month for a subscription I don’t use then as a service contract fee? Fuck that. You are a sucker who is being extorted by a company who disrespects you. They deserve to go out of business for their horrible practices.
I’m pretty positive this is against the law, so they might say it but it might be unenforceable.
Not sure what you mean by SBC
No it literally is a Linux box. You don’t need to put Linux on it. People have managed to connect directly to the box. And so what? It directly refutes 80% of your points. If you can put FOSS software on it then you can do whatever you want with it without worrying about them harvesting your data, requiring it to be always online, charging a subscription, worrying about the “cool tech bro” app, etc.
If any actual alternative existed then yeah it’d be a no brainer to use the alternative. But no alternatives exist. And no, an AC in the window is not an alternative, and those things that blow air on you under the covers also aren’t an alternative.
Even if it’s against the law it doesn’t mean you won’t run into a massive amount of headache. do you really want to have to go to small claims just to get warranty fulfillment?
Single board computer. Linux box is more appropriate terminology apparently
The fact that you can defeat their software is great, genuinely, I’m happy to hear that you do that and I encourage you to develop or promote the alternative firmware that starves them of subscription revenue
The issue is every sale they make is validation of their terrible practices. You may roll your eyes at this and say “who fucking cares” but it matters. We are in a world where companies disrespect us more and more every single year because we as consumers have 0 impulse control. They develop a neat thing and tie it to abusive tactics and instead of saying “hey fuck you, that’s cool but come back when you can sell a version that’s repairable/that has a warranty that shows you stand behind your product/that has a reasonable need for a subscription and not just a subscription because you decided you want revenue forever/etc” we engage in our relentless consumerism.
Our politicians are complete failures at implementing any kind of regulatory oversight, especially in terms of consumer protections, especially on the tech industry. So it is on us to be responsible with our purchasing power and social pressure.
I remember Louis Rossman (yes you read that right) promoting something similar
Did he really? That's kinda surprising. Do you have a link?
looked up the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulgWSfedC7E
Cant find the update :(
Correction: he doesn't promote it and calls it his potentially stupidest purchase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulgWSfedC7E