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[–] danielton@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've had kiosks prompt me for tips, even making me hit Custom and type 0.00.

I'm so tired of Wall Street Journal, Readers Digest, Square, and Clover pushing the idea that we need to tip everybody everywhere because covid. It's ridiculous. I don't want to live in a country where everybody behind a counter can be paid $2.13 an hour.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

One thought that could change this whole thing:

Paying higher wages.

It's a crazy idea!

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Right? It's not covid. The media and Square are helping employers get away with shit wages.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't tgink tipping is responsible for that low a wage. in BC Canada its almost $16 min wage, plus tips

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the US, of course. Most states still allow employers to pay "tipped employees" $2.13 an hour.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, but the underlying problem is not tipping, it is just shitty US laws, otherwise we would see the same low wage in Canada because tip culture is the same

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tipping culture is a thing in Canada only because of its proximity to the US. It's not a thing in the rest of the world. Tipping always pushes wages down because why would employers need to pay more when employees get tips?

The whole tipping thing started as a way for restaurant owners to pay their servers less (or nothing). It needs to go.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it didn't start that way, it was a way to ensure prompt attentive service, it was on the table at the start so staff saw a bonus coming for being very attentive. Not saying that is a good way either, but USA has allowed it to drive down wages. Here minimum wage is almost identical across the country regardless of job type.

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are tips mandatory in Canada like they are here in the US? If yes, then customers are still subsidizing employee wages.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Suggested, not mandatory. Some places have stopped allowing tips being accepted by staff.

[–] SimplyATable@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's only if you live in a state where they're allowed to pay that

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Which is still the majority of them.