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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 49 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The rest are in undeclared labor camps

Goes for both

US labor camps are not undeclared (though extraterritorial black sites are). They’re called prisons, and the labor is slave labor, thanks to the 13th amendment.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The previous user is a bit off base with the labor camps idea (not to say that the Xinjiang detention camps for Uyghurs aren't widely known), but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detentions/行政拘留 for smaller offenses which are kept statistically separate from prison counts.

If Raiden needs a source, the law covering administrative detentions can be reviewed here:

https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2021-01/23/content_5582030.htm

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detention

Isn't that the same as Jails in the US which is separate from prison statistics?

Jail is where you go for the night when arrested for disorderly conduct and are released the next day.

[–] The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Jail is usually for holding during due process and for sentences up to a year. Prison is generally for sentences longer than a year.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge's signoff if they have proof of a crime.

This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a "black jail"/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 hours ago

Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge’s signoff if they have proof of a crime.

And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a “black jail”/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

So pretty similar to the US.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

That meme is working extra hard today but it's just so perfect for the occasion.