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I'm angry at those Palestinians voting to make the genocide worse. As I said, I would like less genocide, if that is not possible then the same amount. More genocide: bad.
Okay were going in circles but sure I will reiterate again, why not. Its incredible you can repeat it so many times and still not see how you're just punching down on Palestinian Americans at this point for literally no reason but western spite towards an ethnic minority group.
The election is over. Your rage at them is based on a hypothetical alternate reality that does not and cannot exist.
An equally possible hypothetical alternate reality is one where Kamala denounced Israel for committing the Palestinian genocide and committed to ending American involvement in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
In that hypothetical reality the people who wouldn't vote for her due to her support of genocide would have instead voted for her.
It is therefore ludicrous that your best possible solution to this situation is for the genocide to persist but for Palestinian Americans to vote for it to continue. Instead of Kamala changing her stance of enthusiastic support for genocide. Which she could've done at any time. And which would've gotten all those people to vote for her. Your rage should be directed at her placing support for Zionism over the defeat of a fascist candidate. It was more important to her that the Palestinian genocide continued than it was for Donald Trump to lose the election.
Well, Kamala didn't. Kamala said she would continue as is. Trump said he would make it worse. And they voted for trump (or third party or stayed home).
Correct. She is at fault in this situation for being an enthusiastic supporter of genocide. Not the Palestinian Americans who demanded better from the democratic party.
They could have demanded better. That's okay. It's the letting the bigger genocieder into power which I have a issue with.
Right, which the Harris campaign did by being more committed to zionism than to keeping Donald Trump out of power. Similarly to how she completely eschewed a working class first platform in favor of appealing to corporate sponsors. Maintaining American capitalism was more important to the Harris campaign than keeping Donald Trump out of power. That's all her. No one did that to her.
No, the Harris campaign didn't vote for trump. It was bad, but trump was worse, and worse won. Harris cast one vote. 77 million Americans chose otherwise.
Wild how in one breath you call for a complex nuanced web of cause and effect for why voting for Harris was a morally good choice despite her committing genocide, then in the next breath absolve of her of all responsibility for her defeat ๐ you are the exact reason the democratic party loses again and again and again. You are either a truly passionate neoliberal conservative who genuinely believes in the democratic party platform of western colonialism and unbounded American capitalism, or else you are so horrified by the prospect of actually doing anything to change the system that you'd actually vote for a fascist candidate if the democratic party ran with one.
How can you absolve Harris of all responsibility for her own loss when she campaigned on far right anti-immigration politics and literal genocide?? You seriously don't believe she could've done anything differently to not lose the election? Youre furious some Palestinian Americans wouldn't vote for her because she enthusiastically pledged to participate in the genocide of their people, but youre not mad at her for enthusiastically pledging to participate in genocide in the first place? Are you a zionist? I'm starting to think none of what you have to say makes any sense unless you yourself are a zionist.
If dems run a fascist next election against Trump, the trend has been "they move right we move right" since the Reagan administration, are you gonna vote for them? Will you speak up? Will you say "the blue antisemite is better than the red one"? Do you have any moral values whatsoever? Is your only moral qualm with Donald Trump that he's crass?
You do you, and keep on punching down on those Palestinian Americans. You know, with an attitude like you've got you could probably swing that into a lucrative career at ICE. They love people who devote themselves to punching down on the marginalized.
I won't vote or speak up because I'm not American. I'm left of center even for European standards, so quite a bit left of Bernie Sanders.
Harris should have been able to come on stage, fart and belch for 45 minutes and still win the election. Three raccoons in a trench coat should have been able to win the election. No matter what you liked or didn't like, trump was worse on every topic than basically any other human in the US.
And still 77 million Americans decided that the criminal, pussy grabber, Netanyahu lover is the one to lead them for the next 4 years.
But hey, now there's military parades on his birthday and military troops on the streets, and he will build a hotel and golf course once all Palestinians are thrown out of gaza!
We don't have to talk in hypothetical. The democratic party ran on a campaign of kicking immigrants out of the country, continuation of the declining state of late stage capitalism, and state sponsored slaughter of Palestinian children overseas.
They could have not done that. Its as simple as that. Straight forward. They could have run a campaign standing up for human rights and a platform of workers rights. Thats it. Thats the problem. The problem is a far right conservative party vs a fascist party and those are the only 2 parties. Democrats lost the election. If they had campaigned differently, they wouldn't have lost. Demand better from politicians, not for people to vote for the murder of their own families.
Coulda shoulda woulda.
There were 2 options:
That's it. You don't get lollipops and unicorns. Primaries took care of that.
America chose option 2. So be it. Extra murder it is. But once they clean the blood, you get a gaudy hotel!
"Moderate genocide and gay marriage"
Genuinely beyond parody. And your problem isnt that that was the only alternative lmao. Neoliberals say the wildest things