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[-] shipp@mastodon.coffee 0 points 1 year ago

@emi @Helix those standards don't really change though. We have the power over ActivityPub. Plus, if they do create cool features, why would we not also add them?

[-] chrisn@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

If there are some big players (like in email), i think the biggest risk is that the big players would end up only talking to each other.

Similar to email, where a random host is likely to be spamming, that might happen here too. (Although I'm not that familiar with the protocols here)

[-] Helix@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

We have the power over ActivityPub

Who is 'we'? And who doesn't say that there's something on top of activitypub?

Plus, if they do create cool features, why would we not also add them?

Because we don't have multiple thousands of paid developers.

[-] shipp@mastodon.coffee 2 points 1 year ago

@Helix we have a legion of trans coders in pink striped programmer socks. They can do anything!

[-] sznio@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Because we don't have multiple thousands of paid developers.

Having worked at a company with thousands of developers, that's a significant advantage for us.

[-] scott@lem.free.as 1 points 1 year ago

One of the "powers" of OSS is that the license usually required changes to be fed back upstream.

If Meta were not to do that the authors of Lemmy could ask someone like EFF to take legal proceeding against them.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the Fediverse you are still 100% under the control of whoever runs the server. Your user accounts can't move between servers. There is no easy way to export communities and import them on other hosts. On top of that, all the federated features are completely optional and can be switched off.

Fediverse really doesn't offer any securities beyond what a plain old Web forum does, all the federation aspects depend on everybody playing nice with each other.

At the moment even basic GDPR conformity isn't given, as there is no way to export all your data from an instance, a deletion request for your data also doesn't seem to be guaranteed to make it to other instances.

If Facebook builds something with ActivityPub and it gets popular they can play the whole embrace, extend, and extinguish game from start to finish.

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