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    [–] loomy@lemy.lol 40 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    opensuse is Debian and Arch combined?

    [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    No, I think it's saying that opensuse breeds Linux distros, and is trying to get Debian and arch to rub cloacas.

    Also, opensuse once bit off a little chunk of someone's ear.

    [–] loomy@lemy.lol 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] Poach@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

    Welcome to Linux. Enjoy your stay.

    [–] UnixSlvt42@preferred.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Well, that's how it feels at times, as someone who uses all 3 for various uses.

    [–] loomy@lemy.lol 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] UnixSlvt42@preferred.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Arch is relatively great, but anyone who's used it for a while has had what should of been a simple update turn into a giant headache. Debian can minimize headaches but you give up the latest software for it. OpenSUSE just feels like the middle ground. You can run the latest software and spend less time sifting through forums because of an update. As a bonus you can always fall back on RPM packages, which can give a tiny bit more software compatibility than the AUR.

    IMO OpenSUSE is what Manjaro wants to be lol

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

    To be fair, OpenSuse is an umbrella of multiple distros other than Debian and Arch. There are

    • Leap (Stable, binary-compatible to SLES)
    • Tumbleweed (Rolling)
    • Slowroll (Rolling but slower, duh)
    • Aeon (Immutable w/ Gnome)
    • Kalpa (Immutable w/ KDE)
    • Factory (unstable)
    • MicroOS (Immutable for Server)
    • Leap Micro (Immutable, binary-compatible to SLES)

    And then of course the whole Enterprise stuff around SLES (Suse Linux Enterprise Server). There's definitely a need to specify what "OpenSuse" actually means in any given context. πŸ˜…

    I agree though, it's god damn great. The bootable btrfs snapshots that are set up by default in particular.

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] loomy@lemy.lol 9 points 1 day ago
    [–] goatinspace@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

    Mike Tyson switched to OpenSuse but was considering Arch and Debian.

    [–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Nope, haha. OpenSuse is old.

    This is an amazing graph. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg

    OpenSuse comes from Suse which comes from Jurix and Slackware. There's a dotted line from Redhat, because of the use of the RPM format, but that is as far as their interbred. Many people consider it one of the OG distros.

    Arch sprang from the aether later, but one could argue it owes Gentoo for its concept (also a dotted line there).

    Debian is an OG. It, Redhat, and Suse are approximately the same age.

    Slackware on the other hand just keeps going.

    [–] comador@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Can confirm. Slackware user since 1995 when I had to puchase diskettes through Walnut Creek Distributors.

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

    This is an amazing graph.

    That's an older version rendered by the GitHub project that does those.

    https://github.com/FabioLolix/LinuxTimeline

    Their releases page has current ones:

    https://github.com/FabioLolix/LinuxTimeline/releases

    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is pretty much like Arch with more graphical tools and more QA. And if you want to have it a little bit more stable like Debian you use OpenSUSE Leap.

    [–] overload@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Yep. I think the reason the AUR on Arch hosts a lot of unmaintained packages that cause breaking changes at least in my experience. OpenSUSE TW basically is the sweet spot, though I've had one or two bad updates I've always been able to roll back with Snapper.

    I wish TW was more mainstream a distro, as it's solves problems people complain about a lot with Linux (i.e. stable releases not supporting new hardware, rolling releases breaking randomly).

    I genuinely believe the age of the distro hurts its appeal for Linux youtubers to spruke the later distro.

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

    There's also an additional middleground between them, Slowroll. Still a rolling distro but slower with feature updates for additional stability.

    Leap tends to be rather outdated as it keeps binary-compatibility to SLES. Of course makes it as stable as possible, but also more often than not uncomfortably lacking behind.