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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Nope. I just looked it up, they're homonyms that come from different root words

https://www.etymonline.com/word/meal

[–] Fuckswearwords@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Ok this doing my head in a bit.

Meal is short for mealtide, not used in English anymore but is in other Germanic languages. And etymologists seem to be uncertain if the meal part relates to time or milling. But that seems weird to me because then mealtide would literally mean something like times-time.

Edit: the two definitions of meal seem to stem from the same word. Hitting/striking wheat is done in times.

I'll use Dutch to clarify since English doesn't have the time definition anymore.

Ik sla het tarwe niet één maal, niet twee maal maar vijftien maal. I hit the wheat not once, not twice but fifteen times.

Na het enkele malen te slaan konden we het malen in de molen. After hitting it a few times we could mill it in the mill.

En toen hadden we meel. And then we had meal.

I hope that somewhat makes it clear.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'll use Dutch to clarify

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Stroopwafel een eind op vent!

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The best German etymology website considers “mal” [time, instance] to be the root of Mahl(zeit) [meal(time)]. Apparently mahlen is unrelated? My mind is also blown.

“Time time” is a wild thing to call meals, but I guess we know what the focus was.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, but I think this has been though "measure" and it makes sense to get measure from time.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

time

Ah yes!

Mille Bornes, French for a thousand milestones, referring to the distance markers on many French roads, is a French designer card game.”

Play here but I remembered a better color version that was more modern

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

come from different root words

That page lists two definitions for meal and the second one is literally "the edible part of ground grain". So it likely refers to grinding (as in with your teeth while eating). Also makes more sense because otherwise "mealtime" would mean "timetime".