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The capitalists have always had control of governments within capitalism. States are not distinct from the ruling class, but an extension. What we are seeing is not a shift from capitalism to neofeudalism, but the consequences of the dying stages of capitalism before socialism. Capitalism has decayed and is dying due to monopolization and centralization of capital, and due to imperialism, but these same conditions prep capitalism for revolution and collective ownership and planning, into socialism.
In theory. And if you look at post war UK. It Def lead to a greater support for socialism, the forming of new party etc. removing our past 2 party system with a different one. The very one that no longer supports socialism.
But socialism cannot and will not grow it of nowhere. The US has never had a large support for it. The UK and much of Europe had people with respect pushing socialism in the 50 to 60. Ex soldiers seeing a whole new way of doing things built the very socialism we understand now.
The US just dose not have anyone effectively making arguments for this. Without such leaders. And honestly we also have non effective left in Europe anymore either.
Add to that. Their is absolutely no evidence of capitalism losing control. It is actually doing very well by it's own standards. As instead ideas like socialism are losing power while capitalism is effectively moving wealth into the hands of the few and most powerful.
It is only failing by the opinion of those of us that disagree with it.. and expecting that to start socialism without some major change. Is just wishful thinking.
This is a very myopic, eurocentric point of view. Capitalism in the global north is sustained by imperialism. The global south, and its suffering, is what keeps prices artificially low in the global north. This system is crumbling, and disparity is rising faster than ever in the global north as a consequence. Countries like Burkina Faso are kicking out occupiers like France, and BRICS is gaining as the west is falling in relevance.
Further, the UK did not go socialist, unless I'm misreading your meaning. Socialism, as it exists in the real world, can be found in countries like the PRC, Cuba, and former USSR. I'm not talking about welfare.
Further, the US is seeing normalization of socialism. Mamdani may be a socdem, but has implied a far more socialist line, ie collectivizing production. The assassination of the United Healthcare CEO is being met with united support among the working class, and parties like the Party for Socialism and Liberation are reporting record member growth.
Opinions aren't what drive social change, material conditions evolving and changing do. The material conditions of capitalism in the west are declining, and socialism is gaining. The global south is increasingly throwing off the shackles of imperialism. If you take a very myopic, eurocentric view, then it can be easy to only see companies getting larger and larger and disparity rising, but if you zoom out this very system is pushing the profit motive and capitalism with it to the brink.
But what are the conditions that are changing? Do we have all the information?
Capitalism is not the only process at play. Settler ontology will nurse capitalism back to health because the supposed weakening of capitalism isn't going to upend material settler realities in a way that forcloses it's usual reactions.
And furthermore, imperialism has not collapsed. There is no reason to believe the BRICS, or any other contemporary developments, actually challenges imperialism meaningfully. We should remind ourselves that there have been moments when people feared the collapes, and even when people suffered catastrophic collapse before. Capitalism remains. Settler-colonialism remains. Imperialism remains. All because we have no clue what America is and are incapable of addressing it without reconsituting it in new ways.
All very fair points, comrade. Ultimately, even if we can see the US on a downward spiral and countries like the PRC on the rise, we can't know for sure how this will pan out. All the more reason to get organized, rather than wait and see.