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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by noctisatrae@beehaw.org to c/chat@beehaw.org

If a game hypes a lot of people up, it will be verified. That’s like, the most important factor… not even the performance, the controls, etc…

As seen in the title, Baldur’s Gate 3 is the perfect example of this: running at 20FPS with constant dips and my Steam Deck on the verge of exploding isn’t what I call “a game flawlessly running on the Steam Deck…”

Just try to be honest guys, it’s okay if the game is badly rated for compatibility with the Steam Deck, it’s not a big deal if it’s too demanding to run on the handled.

But DON’T BE MISLEADING

Thanks :))

EDIT: Not tested on the most recent major update. The big one with many changes to the flow of the game.

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[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I was surprised to see Uncharted 4 running at under 30 fps at times. 45 fps max. The steam deck compatibility rating just seems to be "does it launch." rather than "does it play well." feels far more geared toward Linux desktop users than the steam deck. Honestly, a major issue for the steam deck will be title compatibility and they are doing themselves no favors by lying. Verified should mean 60 FPS stable throughout the game, no dips, just like any other console. Playable I would accept 30 FPS. Anything less than 30 FPS should be unsupported. Why compromise?

This is how you lose your foothold in consoles. If you don't provide a reliable metric to what games are supported then what's the point of getting your console? I don't want to take a gamble on every video game purchase.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Since when did consoles do 60fps?

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://kotaku.com/the-xbox-series-x-has-60-fps-as-standard-but-its-not-g-1843425714 which this is displaying 4k resolutions. The steam deck itself is 1280x800. So really no excuse for sub-30 FPS games to be "verified".

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Idk if you've used a ps4 or Xbox but they very often have games that can barely run. For example pubg, cyberpunk

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is the exception not the rule though. You can run uncharted 4 on a PS4. You can run red dead 2 on an Xbox. Both of these are far worse on steam deck. It's getting to the point where it's becoming the rule on steam deck that you'll have sub 60 fps on a newly released verified steam deck game.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think verified should mean 60fps. Verified should mean the game doesn't crash, the controls work on and the frames are around 30.

Also how is left4dead bad on steamdeck? What issues are you getting.

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Oh my bad I must have been tired when I read that comment.

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

happens, hope you slept well.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Not a great sleep because i woke up early at 5am. Laying in bed i thought about a bakery making fresh bread and then rushed to the bakery to get a warm loaf of fresh bread and a pie.

Pretty good morning

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago
[-] noctisatrae@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I like what Valve are undertaking with the Steam Deck so I’m supporting them either way…

However, I totally agree with you.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

“does it launch.” rather than “does it play well.

That seems pretty reasonable to me, given that in my experience the hardest part of playing games I want to play is them simply not launching. Therefore, if they do launch I have the opportunity to do everything I can do to make it more playable?

I understand the out of the box experience is important (and my Steam Deck has performed flawlessly), but if I want to try and get a Dark Forces 2 running and for some reason it launched but didn't play well, that's better than it not launching. Same for new games, and it seems others don't have issues with BG3 so I'm just overall confused as to OP's point. There's not really much that I haven't been able to run on the Steam Deck that doesn't perform within what I'd expect it to after settings adjustments, just like any PC?

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Verified and playable are two very different things. I would expect verified have to be more than it launches with proton. That's not even steam deck related. If they wanted a system that tells you it's proton playable then it should hook up proton db to the store front. No, instead steam deck ratings are Valve specifically saying we verified this is the sort of experience we want you to have in the steam deck, out of the box. This is backed by their own website. https://www.steamdeck.com/en/verified playable means this isn't the exact ideal experience but it still works of the player does some tweaking like game settings adjustments or using the in screen keyboard for a launcher.

So a verified game, by valve's own words, is "this is the ideal experience". If you want to redefine it for yourself to mean the game might barely run then that's on you but Valve is making a promise here and then not keeping it.

[-] Daydreamy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I agree. The 3 ratings we have now are relatively useless:

  • Unverified
  • Playable but boo hoo you need to use the Steam+X keyboard for 1 minute to input your character name
  • Playable

Give us some actually helpful ratings please. I have to Google every title as it is.

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