Mostafa Rajaei, a veteran weightlifter, finished second in his category in the 2023 World Master Weightlifting Championships in Poland and stood on a podium with an Iranian flag wrapped around him on Saturday.

On anther step of the podium stood Maksim Svirsky from Israel, who finished third.

The two athletes shook hands and took a picture together, which led to the Iran Weightlifting Federation banning Rajaei from all sports for life due to what it called an “unforgivable” transgression.

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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone takes the time to write out a well-thought out and civil response to foster a good faith discussion, and this is how you answer? Why do you people wonder why you're treated with hostility by hexbear users? Why do you choose to remain obtuse and condescending? Why are you this afraid of challenging your worldview?

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The discussion isn’t in good faith, though, and almost nothing is achieved. I would argue, without anything but personal observation as a basis, that 99% of non-hexbear users see 99% of hexbear comments as extremely inflammatory and that 99% of hexbear users see 99% of non-hexbear users as “libtards and chuds”.

I am sure I could drink a couple of sensible pints with some hexbear users and have a good discussion in the pub, but online the greater internet fuckwad theory comes into play (from both “sides”). I would argue both hexbear and non-hexbear Lemmy were happier before you federated again. There is almost zero basis for finding consensus and an online forum isn’t the place to find it.

On a personal level, as soon as per-account instance banning is possible, hexbear will take pride of place in my ban list. And I know what hexbear users think about that - that I’m swimming in a sea of US hegemony propaganda and I’ve got everything wrong and I’m totally fine with that. The judgment of hexbear users concerns me not one iota.

[–] GreatWhiteNope@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

We would never say “libtards” and we don’t have to. Liberal is enough of an insult on its own.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On a personal level, as soon as per-account instance banning is possible, hexbear will take pride of pace in my ban list. And I know what hexbear users think about that - that I’m swimming in a sea of US hegemony propaganda and I’ve got everything wrong and I’m totally fine with that. The judgment of hexbear users concerns me not one iota.

smuglord

btw, we don't in fact use ableist insults.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the discussion is in good faith.

Says the person who just wrote a dismissive one sentence gotcha. You weren't acting in good faith. Saying you were doesn't matter, what matters I your actions.

All the other stuff: it's not that you're wrong - everybody is wrong. It's not that you disagree - everybody disagrees. It's that you're being a condescending dickhead that fails to engage with the arguments presented.
If you behave the same way in person I doubt there's any people willing to talk to you for an extended period of time.
You could argue that hexbear users were wrong, but I wouldn't give a shit about your argument, because it's based on anything but your feelings. If that was something you actually cared about, you would have looked thru the thread discussing federation currently, and you'd see the consensus is that federation is a good thing.

I'm gonna ban you all.

Oh no! What will we do without your smug condescension! What will we do without your inputs based on no research! What will we do without your ableist language! ooooooooooooooh I war really looking forward to your next idiotic sentence dismissing a long and thought out post.