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Can't enable federation and 'private instance' at the same time on 0.18.0 (nc.gnzl.cl)

submitted 1 year ago by gnzl@nc.gnzl.cl to c/lemmy_support@lemmy.ml

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I just upgraded my instance to 0.18.0 using Ansible and I had to disable the option 'Private instance' directly on the database to get the lemmy docker up and running. I assume this is an intentional change, but should it really stop Lemmy from even running?

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said this elsewhere, I'll repeat it here:

I don’t think you understand the point of federation or why you had to hack this. You cannot have federation - which is in fact putting yourself out there, making yourself publically known and open to send and receive messages - and also private, closed off, hosting your own instance.

I think all you wanted really was to close registrations and be on your own server, but that’s not private, that’s still a public server in terms of the 'verse. You’ll still be discoverable, just no one can sign up.

Private instances are for like companies who want to host their own internal lemmy instance for them to have a community. Maybe a marginalized group wants to have a completely private instance completely shut off from the rest of the fediverse that they don’t want to have shared with anyone.

[–] gnzl@nc.gnzl.cl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess this comment was originally a response to a different problem, but in my case it wasn't a "hack" - there was no problem with enabling federation on a private instance, and it worked as expected. I thought of a "private instance" as "can't see it unless you log in, but federates exactly like a public instance would", and that's exactly how it worked in 0.17.4, but I understand if, in principle, it wasn't supposed to work like that. Again, there was no need to hack anything on my end, it just worked.