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[–] beckerist@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] reflex@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doesn't PEP 8 say spaces somewheres?

[–] UlrikHD@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

4 spaces, although I'll die on the hill that tabs should always be used instead of space for indentation. Not just in python.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago
  1. Use tabs.
  2. Enable visible whitespace.

Tada, your indentation level is nicely visible.

[–] GandarfDeGrape@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tabs. But really with modern IDE it's irrelevant. Whatever the tech lead says I guess.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With things like black, flake 8 and Isort I can code however I want, list/format however I want, and commit team compliant content. The dream is real

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I love such formatters and wish they were even more widespread. In many cases, I really want consistency above all and it's so dang hard to achieve that without an opinionated formatter. If the formatters isn't opinionated enough, it just leads to countless human enforced rules that waste time (and lead to an understandable chorus of "why can't the formatter just do that for meeeee").

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but outside of that where the code is implemented or in a documentation, tabs are still easier to look through. And it does look pretty as long as there aren't too many nested functions.

Even with nested functions tabs are neat.

Does you app have too many nested functions?

Use tab width = 2

Do your app have too less nested functions?

Use tab width = 8

Is your app having average number of nested fns?

Use tab width = 4(mostly default)

And all theese can happen without modifying a single byte in the source file, unlike spaces!

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Questions like that are likely to start a war

[–] Jakylla@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

4 Spaces, then one tab, then 3 spaces, then 2 tabs, then 2 spaces, then 3 tabs...

Python supports that (and I hate this)

[–] realaether@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Please elaborate (eg which standard is this defined in?)

[–] Jakylla@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not any standard (and actually not at all something to do for real), but try it, it works

def magic(a, b, c):
    if a > 0:
    	if b > 0:
    	   		if c > 0:
    	   		  return 'All positive'
    
    return 'Not all positive'

print(magic(1,2,3))
print(magic(-1,1,2))
print(magic(1,-1,0))
print(magic(-1,-1,-2))

(you should be able to verify I used both tab and spaces f*cking bad way in this example, like I described)

Output:

All positive
Not all positive
Not all positive
Not all positive


** Process exited - Return Code: 0 **
Press Enter to exit terminal
[–] realaether@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's really interesting. So does that mean the interpreter just checks whether the current line is more indented, less indented, or equal vs. the preceding, without caring by how much?

[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

"indentation is indentation!" (mr_incredible_cereal.jpg)

it may look messy, but would you actually rather Python didn't support some inconsistency when the intent is clear?

being exact just for the sake of being pedantic isn't useful.