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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I had gotten banned over some stupid bullshit near the end of the drama, after i had already been posting here too, and was like 'yeah fuck it.'

Just a few days ago I couldn't resist making a new account simply because of how slow this place is and how often it goes down. Reddit is, absolutely, 500% worse then it ever has been. I'll go with much less content and random outages.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You know don't have to use lemmy.world right? There are other instances that have much better uptime. sh.itjust.works, for example, has a 99.97% uptime compared to lemmy.world's 97.07%. Lemmy.one is 99.98%!

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Isn't this the most active tho?

[–] Panda@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

You can make an account in a different instance and still access the lemmy.world content.

[–] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole point of federation is that there is no "most active" one. The servers all federate with each other. I don't have to be on lemmy.world to see its posts. The show up just fine in the All tab on my instance.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but i thought you had to actually register in different areas? I am still honestly a little lost on all that?

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You have to register to post on the original version of a thread, correct. But federation essentially just trades continually updated copies of the same thread back and forth between different servers. Which is how you're reading this. I'm not even using Lemmy at all, much less lemmy.world specifically. I'm on kbin, and here I am commenting.

Kbin.social has received and delivered unto me a copy of this thread and informed lemmy.world I've commented something in response. Lemmy.world has added that to their version of this post, and now it's in your notifications.

Similarly, when servers block each other, they're really just no longer updating their version of a thread with content from people on Blocked Server. They can still comment as well as any third party can. You can still comment. But neither of you will see each other. You were technically never even in the same thread to begin with. It was a copy handed out to both of you, and now their copy's had your name deleted.

It takes some mental yoga and for me actual crayons for someone non-tech inclined to get their head around it when every site has always been cordoned off from everywhere else, but the idea is more like...having one of Reddit's many defunct apps, that you just happen to have to sign up for.

You could use Apollo and I could use Boost, and those were different things with slightly different interfaces and user capabilities, but both of us would have been using them to access reddit and talk to one another. I didn't have to download Baconreader to see and interact with people using that. It would have been miserable if that were the case.

As long as my server is able to find a community in order to subscribe to it, or properly sends and receives information, I get the exact same content you get. Which inherently means I can also pick up and move anywhere else if I stop liking my specific server, and at the very worst I'd just have to spend several minutes re-subbing everywhere.

This isn't to say there are never issues with jank between servers, to be candid. There always will be a few, I think:

  • Servers have to be informed that others even exist before they'll start pulling content from there, so they can be a bit sparse when they're just starting out.

Meaning there's this catch-22 where Lemmy.world has been repeatedly breaking under the continual weight of hundreds of thousands of users for months, but rectifying it by joining a very tiny one can be utter tumbleweeds. Discovery strikes me as one of the bigger drawbacks to the fediverse as a whole.

  • Here and there an image post has rarely come through from another server without the actual image attached to it, or a post simply won't federate to my server for no particular reason. The Baldur Gate 3 community is particularly making me sad atm now that I've realized there are more posts on the community's home server than the ones that I'm seeing.

I'm not gonna act like there wouldn't ever be some of that going on that you might experience if you moved somewhere unlucky, and it could be sensible to compare the feeds of your favorite subs from different servers to see if the content on each is identical. But I'd bet you already are experiencing a bit of it and just haven't realized you missed anything.

Really, the FOMO is negligible for me and pretty easily something you live with. Certainly when the other option is to make 15 different accounts to access the exact same place, for fear of not seeing three whole posts.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Dude thanks :)

[–] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

As long as your new instance is federated with lemmy.world, you can access all of their content. Additionally, there are a lot of instances lemmy.world is not federated with for various reasons whose content you will be able to access as well from a different instance

[–] mayo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

Oh dude you're missing out.

Join .today or something, then use a tool to copy your subscriptions from ediblefriend@world to the new instance. You don't get to see the Local feed from world, but All and Subscribed are the same. That's it.

https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

[–] uis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

and how often it goes down

You can choose instane that doesn't go down often. That's entire point of fedi.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah... I took a few looks recently and it is definitely a hot mess. One of the meme subs that I used to go to has devolved into just outright porn disguised as a "meme". Lemmy also has, at least from personal experience, less overall hostility/toxicity. It's a nice reprieve from the never-ending attacks on reddit.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't Reddit automatically ban any new accounts you make after any of your accounts are banned?

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. This is my 3rd account lol.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but didn't they ban the 2nd and 3rd for Ban Evasion?

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. 2nd was banned after that video of Ron Pearlman talking about studio execs needing to watch their back. I said something to the effect of 'if hellboy said let's go burn down some houses I'd follow him'. Permaban. No warning. Inciting violence. I was on that account for over a year.

3rd account is still going strong.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For how long have you had the 3rd account?

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A month or so. It's basic common knowledge you can just make new accounts there. You see people talking about it all the time.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh I figured I was hardbanned

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't know what the difference is honestly? My first one said permanently suspended and when I said let's go burn some houses down it said I'm permanently banned. But in each instance I just made a new account on a new email and went right back to business as usual.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried to appeal, got downgraded from perma sus to perma ban

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First one I tried to appeal. Like months later I got a no form letter lol.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still haven't gotten a form letter

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds about right lol

[–] gylotip@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What's the difference between them?

[–] PissinSelfNdriveway@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It depends on how angry you made them when they banned you. But you used to be able to use other 3rd party apps to get around the ban. Idk how it works now that most apps don't work, maybe I should try making a new account to find out.

[–] enigmara@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got "don't talk to me or my kids ever again" banned by Reddit. Making a new account in a FireFox multi-account container was fine. Adding an email that is closely related to my previous ones (gmail dot tricks) got it banned. So it seems easy to work around, just don't do the obvious things.

Haha me too.Firefox sign up and then using infinity has been working great , I thought I'm on my 3rd account of doing that. But now infinity is subscription based so I'm done with it all.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

My ban was for "Report Abuse", something I didn't even know was against the rules as I checked the TOS, and it's actually not there.

It wasn't like I was even abusing it really, I honestly thought I was using it correctly... Inspite of all the "Sorry, this blatant bigotry is actually not a TOS violation"