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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[โ€“] ramble81@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue has never been that some people will ultimately make more than others. With the exception of people on lemmygrad servers, an "everyone gets an equal share" approach is not what most people are looking for. It's more that the division of wealth is massively unequal and that those with that obscene wealth are wielding it in ways that run counter to the common good.

Most people understand that you'll have some rich people, but there needs to be better means to support poorer people in a relative manner and that isn't possible right now.

[โ€“] kugel7c@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

It's not everyone gets an equal share but "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" this is the aim of socialism and what most people on lemmygrad probably want to achieve.

And we are so far away from that, and rich people defend their privilege so violently, that a transition towards it is transformative or in other words revolutionary.

Capitalism will never approach that because capital will always defend itself and thus always exploit the worker and nature, for it's own gain. It will always write the laws create the systems and create the plurality of news and culture to support itself. It will spin up system upon inneficent system (...) just to not give up the last bit of profit and control.

Providing an alternative will never be as easy as "everyone gets an equal share" and every socialist will know that. The only people who will provide this reductive explanation will be people who know next to nothing about socialism, or even just communism / ML. Or have been thoroughly indoctrinated despite good knowledge. At least all the socialists I've read or heard have tried to find a much more nuanced alternative, instead of pretending there's just no point or no need to search for one.