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Edit: Surprised at all the vegans in this thread. I didn't think there were so many of you. I'm glad you care so much about animal rights, that you're willing to forego eating them and using products made from them. If you're not vegan and have moral objections for this, maybe you should look at yourself first and all the animal abuse you sanction by eating animals and using animal products. Did you know dairy cows have to be pregnant to produce milk? They're artificially inseminated throughout most of their lives. I hope everyone complaining about this also complains about ice cream and cheese. Or else they would be hypocrites who just want to blame others but never look at themselves.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Living people is more important than dead animals.

Plus, every new kidney comes with a side of bacon. How can you resist a deal like that?

[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you are proving OP right.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If OP is an ethical vegan, then they have a point. Everyone else needs to get over themselves.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No vegan has a point if they're opposed to growing new human organs.

Human lives are more valuable than any animal's life.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a judgement call. I mean, I agree, but it's not objectively true.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's my opinion, and thankfully the opinion of the overwhelming majority of people.

Veganism is stupid

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh.. why do you care enough to have an opinion about them? Do you know a lot of pushy vegans? If yes, the problem isn't veganism, it's pushy jerks.

Veganism is fine because I'm not vegan so I don't care.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are vegans in this thread arguing against this life-saving procedure because it uses animals.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they have a low value of human life. It's a weird point of view, but it's not objectively wrong.

In their defense, have you met people? Are you sure that people are better than pigs?

[–] Sh3Rm4n@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And why is that? Why attach value which can be compared to living species? I dislike such kind of ethical system. This is a flawed absolutist argument.

I like that commenters keep saying animals as if that blanket term doesn't include humans. Anyone who thinks people aren't animals is not worth arguing with.