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No, Bernie and similar movements blunt attempts at revolution in the material circumstances they're in, but have little effect on future movements. Failures are generally only failures of the moment.
The overreach of the anarchists and propaganda of the deed in the 19th century had little effect on the growth of mass socialist movements of any tendency 10 years later. The repeated betrayals of Social Democrats couldn't stop the USSR, or China, from springing into being almost immediately after they faded from influence.
Even the fall of the USSR, stomping communism into the ground as deep as they could, didn't even give them 30 years of peace from us.
Chapo was eliminated from reddit at the height of Bernie's popularity. That was done out of fear because organization was on the horizon. Organization is capitalism's defeat.