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I appreciate your voice and the importance of the sentiment that all humans deserve fundamental dignity and respect.
That said, “all billionaires are malfeasant parasites who don’t deserve to participate in society” is a hill upon which I’m willing to die.
It takes a special kind of sociopathy to pillage and hoard resources unfathomable when people are starving, suffering, and dying.
“Eat the rich” is more stirring and concise than “humanely strip the heinously wealthy of their power and resources”.
I'm all for eating the rich. Never in my comment did I say I think that billionaires got their money by being kind.
The only way to have that money is to cause the death or at least loss of "life" (eg. Wage slavery, lobbying for less socal welfare while making sure you get all the tax cuts, ect.).
What I am saying is, at the end of the day, being angry at dead people won't help anyone that they hurt.
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I wish you'd own your point of view instead of using weasel words. Do you support the respect and dignity of all people or not?
Preemptive edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word
Your first sentence is incomprehensible to me.
What I mean is that I logically it’s very good to have people who are passionate about honoring human respect and dignity. It’s more moral and closer to the kindest world we could have. A diversity of opinions is necessary and first, and foremost, I wanted to recognize and respect the good work of voicing a less popular opinion to uphold your virtues.
Personally, I’m more worried about the collective pain and suffering that could be avoided if the status quo is maintained than quickly taking action and inadvertently breaking eggs. IMHO, the main reason sociopaths prevail is that empathetic folks waste time and effort trying to find a fantasy path where no one is hurt. Seems to me like the focus should be efficient and effective resolution of societal issues generating mass suffering period rather than having an Entmoot.
We’re not going to be able to impress billionaires so much with kindness and consideration that they prioritize the greater good over short-term interests. Better is the enemy of done.
My viewpoint is that we need to prioritize the reducing the most suffering yesterday. you don’t have to and probably shouldn’t agree. Discussion and disagreement are necessary for coalescing on a good path forward. Better ideas come out of a composite of values, flat personal opinions.
Tl;dr - I think your ideals are good and right in an ideal world, but also think the sentiment has misplaced priorities in the nightmare unfolding with exponential consumption of resources and pollution of the planet. I’m grateful for the opportunity to discuss and this is a nice change of pace/tone from Reddit.