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From the article, really buried: "Roiland usually asked people how old they were, if they were single, and if they were “into girls.” In three cases, when the person said they were under 18, Roiland would message them again months or years later. Those three conversations started with people who said they were 16 at the time, and continued for years, until they were 18 and older."
After reading the whole article it doesn't seem like he did anything sexual with anyone under 18. My takeaway is that he's a creep, abuses his fame and power (part of a big club there), he's manipulative, and he plies underage people with alcohol to get them to sleep with him, but it appears he's not a pedo. Or at least smart enough not to get caught.
Not a pedo, just a regular rapist. Talk about low bars.
Don't mistake my comment as a defense of him as a person. He's been accused of domestic violence, forced oral sex, and taking advantage of intoxicated women under the drinking age. Despite him getting off on the DV charge, where there's smoke, there's fire. He's obviously a pretty terrible human being.
I just don't like people throwing around 'pedo' unjustly, because it waters it down and takes away the impact when used against even worse monsters.
Even the "forced" oral sex seems really suspect.
But he should have been able to read the situation as well as anyone. If she seems to be setting a trap, maybe don't fall for it?
Either way, the dude seems to be tiptoeing around the borders laws that nobody should be near. Dude's sitting and watching the clock for when his prey turns 18. Even if he might comply with the letter of the law, he's clearly violating the spirit.
16 is not prepubescent which is what pedo is there is another term for teens but i forgot.
Libertarian?
Ephebophilia I believe. He's also a groomer, how fun...
The only people who care about this distinction are pedophiles / whatever that term is.
No, by grouping children in with postpubertal humans who engage in age appropriate sexual acts you downplay pedophilia. You're an idiot and you insist on being one.
Lmao a 16 year old being hit on by a 30 year old is not age appropriate sexual acts, it's about mental maturity
You're saying fucking a two year old is the same as fucking a 16 year old you sicko. I never mentioned 30 years anyway, you're also putting words into my mouth.
Nah, I'm just saying I don't feel uncomfortable calling someone who preys on children a pedophile, cause they're gross either way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child words don't seem to be your strong suit. You're also fine with calling a young woman a child, which is in line with bigoted religious and woman hating people. Nice company you're in.
Allow me to recite the third sentence of that Wikipedia article you linked since reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit:
"The legal definition of child generally refers to a minor, otherwise known as a person younger than the age of majority.[1] Children generally have fewer rights and responsibilities than adults. They are classed as unable to make serious decisions." such as sex with a grown man
Yes, and let me cite the first sentence: "A child (PL: children) is a human being between the stages of birth and puberty,[1][2] or between the developmental period of infancy and puberty."
Let me also cite "Pedophilia (alternatively spelled paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia. By using the non-standard legal definition of "child" you weaken the meaning of pedophilia and normalize it, and you perform mental gymnastics to justify normalizing pedophilia.
The fact that you think that young women of 16 years don't have the mental capability to make decisions is very revealing, and contradicts the law in many places in the US and the west in general.
I was using the legal (and very commonly used, btw) definition of child, since *acting on pedophilia is illegal. I'm not normalizing anything by comparing them to pedophiles, youre the one trying to normalize sexual relations with people under 18
Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder and not illegal, what's illegal is sexual abuse. You're just a bible-thumping misogynist bigot who thinks they pose as progressive.
Lol Im very against all of those things, thinking minors shouldn't be sexualized by adults has nothing to do with any of those terms you rattled off. Go fuck your underage waifu pillow
The term is "ephebophilia"
Now you've read my comment
Now you know what that term is
Now you're a pedophile
It's that easy! See you in Thailand!
I said people who care about the distinction, not people who know the term
lol whatever pedo
This is textbook grooming
"Hey how old are you?"
(ends conversation)
That's not grooming.
This is a quote from the comment you're responding to... It IS textbook grooming. He didn't stop talking to them when he found out they were underage.
Except he didn't end the conversation. Read the article, fuckwit
You kiss your daddy with that mouth?
Only below the waist
And continued for years is the key.
He made sexually explicit comments to minors for years. And solicited pictures? That's solicitation of child pornography
The guys a pedo. Rather or not he gets charged with something related to under age girls, we'll see.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/pop-culture/who-allie-goertz-justin-roiland-underage-girls-dm-screenshots-surface-wake-musician-s-accusations
No, dude's a pedo. "Starting the conversation" with someone who's underage then waiting til 5 minutes after their 18th birthday to make a move doesn't make you not a pedo, it makes you a pedo who doesn't want to go to prison. Even then, there are at least two documented cases where he didn't wait. Because he's a pedo.
No he's a pedo that just barely skirts the law so he doesn't get gang raped in prison.
You say he abuses his fame and power. I don't really see and power accept money and fame. If people are attracted to fame and power, then why should he not be allowed to use his? Why is that different than a woman who shows off her breasts to get a date?
You don't see why unbalanced power dynamics lead to abusive situations?
So you are saying that all golddiggers are automatically victims now because there is an ‘unbalanced power dynamic’?
Yes, that's what OP is saying.
So now I have to feel sorry for girls who choose to only date old millionaires? Crazy…
Welcome to 2023. Accountability went out in the 90s.
I don't really get the people that bitching about using their fame to get laid either. Are we only allowed to date within our own social class? If they're being coercive, yea, that's a problem but it's possible to have a relationship without coercion.
I'm not defending this dude but the problem with him was that he was pursuing minors not that he was famous and successful.