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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Considering we can't even get heads or state or imagining-they're-heads-of-states to not:

  • Wage war on neighboring countries.
  • Try to usurp their own government.
  • Promote wild conspiracy theories.
  • Be ragingly against personal freedom even in the US, the countries that is supposedly all about that.
  • Be ragingly anti-intellectual.

... I really have exactly zero hope we can do shit-all about climate issues. We can't even handle far smaller and far more benign (by comparison) issues on a national level, what hope do we have to handle things that require everyone to pull in the same direction, on an international one.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

… I really have exactly zero hope we can do shit-all about climate issues. We can’t even handle far smaller and far more benign (by comparison) issues on a national level, what hope do we have to handle things that require everyone to pull in the same direction, on an international one.

you wanna hear something even more depressing? people first started talking about the greenhouse effect (though it wasn't called that,) in 1824. (Fourrier and Pouilett were the first two. Fourier in 1824, and pouillet in 1836 or so,). In 1896, we have the first scientist getting concerned about it. that credit goes to Svanta Arrhenius.

Oh. and Popular Mechanics ran an article about it being a problem in 1912. complete with this picture:
In short. We've known for over a century and still fucked the earth up.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

"A few centuries... That's next week's problem. No one I ever know will be alive to see that."