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[–] sincle354@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know I was about to make a North Korea joke about infant mortality and the post natal care, but if you believe the statistics (13.9 per 1000 live births, 22 per 1000 at worst), they're better than 30-40% countries INCLUDING India, and handily at that (32 per 1000).

That said, I don't know if surviving childhood in NK is more or less cruel.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Rule number one about dealing with NK is don't believe anything NK says.

[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you saying they actually had more than 74 deaths from covid? Preposterous!

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

And the glorious leader never poops!

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone else who got covid died from getting shot in the neck

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rule number two, be really careful believing anything about North Korea in general, positive or negative. For example, a large number of North Korean defector stories have fallen apart under scrutiny, as reported by The Guardian. Then you have media outlets like Radio Free Asia making up stories wholesale, like the Kim Jong Un haircut story which turned out to be totally fabricated but still caught on like wildfire. Or the unicorn story, which also turned out to be complete bullshit.

[–] sincle354@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I'm looking at world bank data that says 7.9? Wikipedia says 22, google search says 15, but none of them claim higher than India at 32. Not even estimates can give good results, but there is a distinct reduction in all sources from 121(!!!) from their 1996 famine.

[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Move there and investigate it yourself

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But believe US propaganda outlets? How can “nothing ever come out of NK, it’s so closed off” but at the same time “NK is nuts if you cut your hair you are kill”?

edit: just to make it clear, I don’t believe the numbers NK publicises to the world. They have every reason to not be honest about their numbers, to an Imperial world that wishes to have it annihilated.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk what you're arguing, since you state that you don't believe the numbers coming from NK. I said don't believe them, you said you don't, yet you still seem to have a disagreement.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Any opportunity for America bad.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m arguing that if you’re not gonna believe these numbers, don’t believe any other number either. Like that they are all starving, they all go to jail etc.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those other "numbers", which are actually statements, not numbers, come from NK escapees and detractors. We have no reason not to believe them. They've been corroborated multiple times.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That’s not true at all. Detractors have everything to gain by lying. They become 5 minute celebrities and often have careers paid out by CIA-fronts like Radia Free Asia. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about, except from seeing that absurd clown on John Rogan or something. Forgot her name. Lol